General/Off-topic discussion

[valade16]

I guess I see what you’re saying. I would have to answer yes then. God does discriminate against gay people. Also he discriminated against adulterer and liars and thieves and every other kind of sinful behavior. I’ll concede that.

Yes, but for those other sins I can point to a specific person who has been harmed directly by those actions. That is not true of homosexuality.

[ewing]

Yeah. I think if you sent something home to inform parents what you’re doing and they haven’t complained, then it’s on them. Either they don’t care that you’re doing it or they don’t care enough about their kids to pay attention. Either way… it’s on them.

It's written down. We normally consider parental consent them having to sign something saying they agree.

[The20thK]

Ok, but that goes back to my point. Treating homosexuals different, in this case by denying them marriage, is discrimination. It’s the textbook definition of discrimination in fact.

The Bible also doesn’t condone sex with animals… so in that case it must discriminate against a people group and animals? This is your logic right?

It also discrimates against pedophilia. Do you see how it might actually be a good thing to “discriminate”?

[The20thK]

It's written down. We normally consider parental consent them having to sign something saying they agree.

Understood. My apologies.

[The20thK]

Yes, but for those other sins I can point to a specific person who has been harmed directly by those actions. That is not true of homosexuality.

You feel like it doesn’t harm someone but that’s not what the Bible says. It says that people who commit sexual sin are actually committing sin against themselves. They are literally harming themselves. Good Fathers don’t like it when their children hurt themselves.

[valade16]

The Bible also doesn’t condone sex with animals… so in that case it must discriminate against a petiole group and animals? This is your logic right?

It also discrimates against pedophilia. Do you see how it might actually be a good thing to “discriminate”?

No, my logic is not that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia and bestiality. The primary difference in fact is that both parties of the sexual act are doing so consensually in homosexuality, but not in those other instances.

I think there’s a good reason to prohibit certain behaviors. That is different than discriminating, particularly because you have given no sound articulable reason why we should discriminate against Homosexuality other than God said so.

[ewing]

This is just stupid… lol

Have I once advocated for anything other than personal responsibility in our actions? What makes you think if I had gay sex that I would then turn and blame that on someone else? That’s the lefts game. The left is full of victims…

Then why are so worried about "groomers"? If you consent to gay sex its b/c you want to have gay sex.

[The20thK]

No, my logic is not that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia and bestiality. The primary difference in fact is that both parties of the sexual act are doing so consensually in homosexuality, but not in those other instances.

I think there’s a good reason to prohibit certain behaviors. That is different than discriminating, particularly because you have given no sound articulable reason why we should discriminate against Homosexuality other than God said so.

Are you saying that children and animals cannot condone to having sex?

[valade16]

You feel like it doesn’t harm someone but that’s not what the Bible says. It says that people who commit sexual sin are actually committing sin against themselves. They are literally harming themselves. Good Fathers don’t like it when their children hurt themselves.

Except the people doing it don’t consider it to be self harm.

[mngopher35]

No, my logic is not that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia and bestiality. The primary difference in fact is that both parties of the sexual act are doing so consensually in homosexuality, but not in those other instances.

I think there’s a good reason to prohibit certain behaviors. That is different than discriminating, particularly because you have given no sound articulable reason why we should discriminate against Homosexuality other than God said so.

Lol exactly. This guy can’t be serious with this level of bigotry and hiding behind his warped views of religion.


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[The20thK]

Then why are so worried about "groomers"? If you consent to gay sex its b/c you want to have gay sex.

Because “groomers” by definition are manipulating children into becoming homosexuals.

Again… I don’t think this is something that the vast majority of homosexuals would condone. But there are many, homosexual and heterosexual, that very much would like to groom kids into sex objects.

[valade16]

Are you saying that children and animals cannot condone to having sex?

Legally, no they cannot. Consent must be informed and with an understanding of the consequences. But beyond that, you are comparing homosexual adults to animals. Do you think homosexuals have the same mental capacity as animals or are like animals?

[The20thK]

Except the people doing it don’t consider it to be self harm.

Neither do drug addicts

[valade16]

Neither do drug addicts

Yes but again, I can point to actual physical, tangible harms caused by drug use. Can you point to the actual harm caused by homosexuality? Now your argument is it’s self-harm because God said so. You lack the underlying why

[The20thK]

Legally, no they cannot. Consent must be informed and with an understanding of the consequences. But beyond that, you are comparing homosexual adults to animals. Do you think homosexuals have the same mental capacity as animals or are like animals?

1) So children can’t consent to sex with an adult because it illegal. So if it wasn’t illegal, would it be acceptable?

2) You’re being intentionally deceitful in your accusation. You said that the as long as homosexuals consent then it’s ok. I am saying that children can consent and so can animals.