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    Top 270 Players of the 2016 Regular Season (Updated)

    *There are some players that may have a high enough win score to be included but failed to meet the MP cutoff
    *All players are listed by my own version of Player Value converted into Wins
    * Player Value is based on "Alternative Wins Shares" and "Value Over Replacement Player" formulas, however significantly changed to include more defensive metrics (Primarily SportsVU defensive tracking). ETC.
    *PV Shares assess league quality - which theoretically takes into consideration, the actual talent pool, and the affects NBA rule changes may have on the quality of competition.

    *Most importantly ALL players' Value stats are on an ALL-TIME scale, for instance enabling cross-era comparisons: How does Draymond Green's play so far compare with 1971 Elvin Hayes. In order to accomplish this, I needed a balanced era to serve as a level field of comparison - the 90s was selected. It may have been a bit favorable to Centers, but compared to other era's I believe their was more of a competitive balance from all positions. Today's game, for a variety of reasons, has neutralized the Center position, and the rules are more favorable for parameters players, making it almost impossible to reasonably compare these players to players from other era's without league average and league quality adjustments.

    Well, I've made those reasonable adjustments. I thought I'd mentioned this so that viewers can read my work better. All of my player evals are from an all-time reference and perspective. I can break down all my formulas if requested, from my Usage Rate on down. Just think of it as reverse inflation, this is how Kevin Durant eg 2016 numbers look from within balanced context.



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    	Name				        Score
    1	LeBron James				15.96
    2	Stephen Curry				15.08
    3	Kevin Durant				14.74
    4	Russell Westbrook			14.30
    5	James Harden				13.67
    6	Karl-Anthony Towns			13.19
    7	DeAndre Jordan				12.83
    8	Draymond Green				12.79
    9	Kawhi Leonard				12.76
    10	Andre Drummond				12.19
    11	Chris Paul				12.09
    12	Paul Millsap				12.08
    13	John Wall				11.98
    14	Paul George				11.91
    15	Kyle Lowry				11.90
    16	Kemba Walker				11.88
    17	Al Horford				11.75
    18	Brook Lopez				11.75
    19	DeMarcus Cousins			11.73
    20	Pau Gasol				11.44
    21	Anthony Davis				11.44
    22	Giannis Antetokounmpo			11.21
    23	LaMarcus Aldridge			10.80
    24	Greg Monroe				10.77
    25	Hassan Whiteside			10.76
    26	Damian Lillard				10.61
    27	Marcin Gortat				10.22
    28	Jimmy Butler				9.86
    29	Nikola Vucevic				9.74
    30	Isaiah Thomas				9.72
    31	Dwight Howard				9.70
    32	Carmelo Anthony				9.63
    33	Andrew Wiggins				9.63
    34	DeMar DeRozan				9.46
    35	Rajon Rondo				9.15
    36	Klay Thompson				8.90
    37	Enes Kanter				8.77
    38	Khris Middleton				8.76
    39	Thaddeus Young				8.74
    40	Dwyane Wade				8.54
    41	Kevin Love				8.52
    42	Jeff Teague				8.47
    43	Robin Lopez				8.34
    44	Gordon Hayward				8.29
    45	Derrick Favors				8.28
    46	Goran Dragic				8.25
    47	Nikola Jokic				8.24
    48	C.J. McCollum				8.05
    49	Victor Oladipo				8.01
    50	Nicolas Batum				7.88
    51	Dirk Nowitzki				7.87
    52	Ricky Rubio				7.81
    53	Gorgui Dieng				7.74
    54	Tobias Harris				7.74
    55	Monta Ellis				7.53
    56	Tristan Thompson			7.41
    57	Steven Adams				7.37
    58	Marvin Williams				7.29
    59	Mason Plumlee				7.23
    60	Jae Crowder				7.19
    61	Rudy Gobert				7.17
    62	Reggie Jackson				7.03
    63	Nerlens Noel				7.00
    64	Trevor Ariza				6.98
    65	Zaza Pachulia				6.95
    66	Zach Randolph				6.92
    67	Ed Davis				6.91
    68	Kenneth Faried				6.87
    69	Kristaps Porzingis			6.80
    70	Aaron Gordon				6.79
    71	Serge Ibaka				6.73
    72	Jared Sullinger				6.71
    73	Jrue Holiday				6.69
    74	Rudy Gay				6.68
    75	George Hill				6.64
    76	Marcus Morris				6.64
    77	Darren Collison				6.63
    78	Avery Bradley				6.60
    79	Evan Turner				6.60
    80	Will Barton				6.54
    81	Kentavious Caldwell-Pope		6.51
    82	Marc Gasol				6.39
    83	Taj Gibson				6.39
    84	Jonas Valanciunas			6.38
    85	Kyrie Irving				6.33
    86	Chris Bosh				6.33
    87	Mike Conley				6.29
    88	Ian Mahinmi				6.29
    89	Luol Deng				6.25
    90	Amir Johnson				6.25
    91	Ryan Anderson				6.20
    92	Cody Zeller				6.18
    93	J.J. Redick				6.15
    94	Jabari Parker				6.14
    95	Tony Parker				6.11
    96	Otto Porter				6.00
    97	Clint Capela				5.98
    98	P.J. Tucker				5.90
    99	Danilo Gallinari			5.89
    100	Ish Smith				5.88
    101	Deron Williams				5.69
    102	Evan Fournier				5.66
    103	Jahlil Okafor				5.65
    104	Lou Williams				5.64
    105	Tim Duncan				5.61
    106	Jordan Clarkson				5.61
    107	Bismack Biyombo				5.52
    108	Kent Bazemore				5.49
    109	Wesley Matthews				5.46
    110	Elfrid Payton				5.38
    111	Rodney Hood				5.36
    112	Al-Farouq Aminu				5.33
    113	Julius Randle				5.32
    114	Joe Johnson				5.30
    115	Raymond Felton				5.30
    116	Andrew Bogut				5.29
    117	Derrick Rose				5.22
    118	Tyson Chandler				5.17
    119	Chandler Parsons			5.15
    120	Jerami Grant				5.13
    121	Jordan Hill				5.11
    122	Patrick Beverley			5.07
    123	Gary Harris				5.07
    124	Courtney Lee				5.00
    125	Thabo Sefolosha				4.94
    126	Blake Griffin				4.94
    127	Jamal Crawford				4.92
    128	Shabazz Muhammad			4.91
    129	Dennis Schroder				4.88
    130	Ramon Sessions				4.86
    131	Kosta Koufos				4.85
    132	Jeff Green				4.85
    133	Derrick Williams			4.81
    134	D'Angelo Russell			4.78
    135	Willie Cauley-Stein			4.77
    136	David West				4.75
    137	Trevor Booker				4.72
    138	Andre Iguodala				4.69
    139	Harrison Barnes				4.68
    140	J.J. Barea				4.64
    141	T.J. McConnell				4.63
    142	Zach LaVine				4.62
    143	Langston Galloway			4.52
    144	Brandon Knight				4.47
    145	Shane Larkin				4.44
    146	Jeremy Lin				4.42
    147	Omri Casspi				4.42
    148	Kelly Olynyk				4.40
    149	Jose Calderon				4.39
    150	Jared Dudley				4.37
    151	Bradley Beal				4.37
    152	Shaun Livingston			4.36
    153	Michael Carter-Williams			4.35
    154	Patrick Mills				4.31
    155	Brandon Bass				4.28
    156	Cory Joseph				4.28
    157	Alex Len				4.24
    158	Allen Crabbe				4.22
    159	Mario Chalmers				4.20
    160	J.R. Smith				4.19
    161	Aron Baynes				4.19
    162	Myles Turner				4.18
    163	Ersan Ilyasova				4.09
    164	Nikola Mirotic				4.08
    165	Eric Bledsoe				4.06
    166	Robert Covington			4.06
    167	Kobe Bryant				4.02
    168	Lavoy Allen				4.01
    169	Al Jefferson				3.98
    170	Patrick Patterson			3.98
    171	Kyle Korver				3.98
    172	Marcus Smart				3.87
    173	Frank Kaminsky				3.84
    174	Timofey Mozgov				3.84
    175	Mirza Teletovic				3.83
    176	Arron Afflalo				3.81
    177	Danny Green				3.80
    178	Maurice Harkless			3.76
    179	JaMychal Green				3.75
    180	Tony Allen				3.72
    181	Matt Barnes				3.70
    182	Jon Leuer				3.66
    183	Terrence Ross				3.65
    184	Justise Winslow				3.60
    185	Jeremy Lamb				3.58
    186	Boris Diaw				3.54
    187	Manu Ginobili				3.54
    188	Matthew Dellavedova			3.53
    189	Darrell Arthur				3.45
    190	Nene Hilario				3.41
    191	Markieff Morris				3.41
    192	Roy Hibbert				3.39
    193	Larry Nance Jr.				3.38
    194	Joffrey Lauvergne			3.37
    195	Luis Scola				3.30
    196	Andre Roberson				3.23
    197	Dion Waiters				3.19
    198	Donald Sloan				3.15
    199	Austin Rivers				3.13
    200	Toney Douglas				3.08
    201	Wesley Johnson				3.08
    202	Emmanuel Mudiay				3.05
    203	Kyle Anderson				3.04
    204	Jason Smith				3.03
    205	Lance Stephenson			3.03
    206	Bobby Portis				3.00
    207	Trey Burke				2.97
    208	T.J. Warren				2.96
    209	Mike Scott				2.90
    210	Gerald Henderson			2.88
    211	Garrett Temple				2.87
    212	Devin Harris				2.85
    213	Devin Booker				2.84
    214	Eric Gordon				2.83
    215	Gerald Green				2.80
    216	Rodney Stuckey				2.79
    217	Isaiah Canaan				2.77
    218	Dante Cunningham			2.77
    219	Corey Brewer				2.72
    220	Jerryd Bayless				2.72
    221	Doug McDermott				2.67
    222	Omer Asik				2.64
    223	Alonzo Gee				2.61
    224	Hollis Thompson				2.60
    225	Bojan Bogdanovic			2.59
    226	D.J. Augustin				2.59
    227	Marcus Thornton				2.57
    228	C.J. Miles				2.56
    229	Jarrett Jack				2.52
    230	Nik Stauskas				2.50
    231	Ty Lawson				2.50
    232	Shelvin Mack				2.46
    233	Trey Lyles				2.42
    234	Jerian Grant				2.37
    235	Channing Frye				2.35
    236	Anthony Tolliver			2.31
    237	Terrence Jones				2.28
    238	Wayne Ellington				2.27
    239	Marco Belinelli				2.25
    240	E'Twaun Moore				2.23
    241	Raul Neto				2.16
    242	Meyers Leonard				2.14
    243	Leandro Barbosa				2.13
    244	Aaron Brooks				2.10
    245	Luc Mbah a Moute			2.06
    246	Jonas Jerebko				2.06
    247	Archie Goodwin				2.05
    248	Spencer Hawes				2.03
    249	Lance Thomas				1.99
    250	Ronnie Price				1.99
    251	Stanley Johnson				1.91
    252	Norris Cole				1.90
    253	Richard Jefferson			1.88
    254	Joe Ingles				1.87
    255	Randy Foye				1.87
    256	Tayshaun Prince				1.85
    257	Mario Hezonja				1.82
    258	Iman Shumpert				1.81
    259	Nemanja Bjelica				1.79
    260	Noah Vonleh				1.76
    261	Vince Carter				1.73
    262	Jameer Nelson				1.72
    263	Ben McLemore				1.68
    264	Jason Terry				1.67
    265	Brandon Rush				1.65
    266	Josh Richardson				1.64
    267	JaKarr Sampson				1.41
    268	Paul Pierce				1.36
    269	Kevin Martin				1.31
    270	Tony Snell				1.20
    271	O.J. Mayo				1.09
    272	Nick Young				1.00
    273	P.J. Hairston				0.97

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    Have to wonder how much this metric incorporates defense to claim Harden was better than Kawhi this season. Sure Harden scored 8 more PPG, but Kawhi was more efficient and elite on defense whereas Harden was so bad he has become a cliché for lack of defensive effort.

    How can you reconcile that?

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    how on earth do you have Stanley Johnson ahead of Norris Cole? I can't take this list seriously

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    I like! I think LeBron is about the only guy that can carry any team to the playoffs. And certain other teams to compete for a championship. No other guy can do this, other than maybe Kevin Durant.

    I see a few things that people could question...John Wall over Paul George. NO SIR! I'm taking George all day.

    Why are Andre Drummond and DeAndre Jordan so high. Both are great players. But, they kill you at the free throw line. So, much that they become a liability.

    James Harden over Kawhi Leonard... Harden is horrible on the defensive end. Someone ask me to pick one out of the two, it's Kawhi!

    Greg Monroe over Hassan Whitside?! No sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    how on earth do you have Stanley Johnson ahead of Norris Cole? I can't take this list seriously
    Because Norris Cole suck. I'd take Stanley Johnson over Norris Cole.

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    where the hell is moochie norris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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    No surprise that most of Dwayne overWaded's teammates (Lebron, Dragic, Deng, Whiteside) are topping this list while he resides at #40.

    Dude is the ultimate coattail rider whose team wouldn't even make the playoffs in the weak east if he wasn't surrounded by All-stars and Hall of Famers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Have to wonder how much this metric incorporates defense to claim Harden was better than Kawhi this season. Sure Harden scored 8 more PPG, but Kawhi was more efficient and elite on defense whereas Harden was so bad he has become a cliché for lack of defensive effort.

    How can you reconcile that?
    "better" is a relative term...

    My value shares is a counting stat, Harden played almost 800 more minutes than Kawhi this season.

    Here's a breakdown of Value Share/MP

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    1	LeBron James	0.57%
    2	Kevin Durant	0.55%
    3	Stephen Curry	0.54%
    4	Kawhi Leonard	0.52%
    5	Russell Westbrook	0.50%
    6	Karl-Anthony Towns	0.48%
    7	DeAndre Jordan	0.48%
    8	Andre Drummond	0.44%
    9	Draymond Green	0.44%
    10	James Harden	0.42%
    When Kawhi's been on the floor, on the all-time scale, his production level is higher than Harden's.

    I calculate my own variation of Usage Rate (2016 RS):

    Harden USG% = 29.44
    Leonard USG% = 22.27

    Although Leonard's much more efficient, Harden's overall production is higher.


    As far as measuring defense, in addition to box stat linear weighs, I included Sports VU defense tracking - Opponent FG Differential to be particular. It's one reason why I think that LeBron's 2016 RS is slightly more impressive than Curry's all things considered.

    Opponents shot 37% this year when LeBron guarded them, over 7 pts below their average according to NBA.com's player tracking. I hope I don't need to elaborate on just how phenomenal that number is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    where the hell is moochie norris?
    Unlike your namesake you are outside just raining straight daggers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel20 View Post
    on the all-time scale
    I think this is where you get in trouble. I understand why you normalized to the 90s, but there is no need to normalize to the 90s when all of the players are playing today. What happens to your list if you leave that out? (I'm not saying do it, just a thought exercise)

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    Bimbo Coles

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    Quote Originally Posted by DboneG View Post
    I like! I think LeBron is about the only guy that can carry any team to the playoffs. And certain other teams to compete for a championship. No other guy can do this, other than maybe Kevin Durant.

    I see a few things that people could question...John Wall over Paul George. NO SIR! I'm taking George all day.

    Why are Andre Drummond and DeAndre Jordan so high. Both are great players. But, they kill you at the free throw line. So, much that they become a liability.

    James Harden over Kawhi Leonard... Harden is horrible on the defensive end. Someone ask me to pick one out of the two, it's Kawhi!

    Greg Monroe over Hassan Whitside?! No sir.
    Wall v George in my opinion at the conclusion of the 2016 RS is about as close as I have it. However, I add in postseason performance as bonus at the end of the playoffs, George will end up with the most 2016 Value Shares (playoffs included). Do you find it odd that Wall has twice as many blocks as George? It's not that that stat has a heavy influence on the outcomes, I just thought it was a typo at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S & B Bleeder View Post
    No surprise that most of Dwayne overWaded's teammates (Lebron, Dragic, Deng, Whiteside) are topping this list while he resides at #40.

    Dude is the ultimate coattail rider whose team wouldn't even make the playoffs in the weak east if he wasn't surrounded by All-stars and Hall of Famers.
    I don't think you read the list right, yes Wade is 40th, he played 2300 minutes this season, but Dragic & Deng, who both played more minutes than Wade are not ranked above Wade. And LeBron is no longer Wade's teammate in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I think this is where you get in trouble. I understand why you normalized to the 90s, but there is no need to normalize to the 90s when all of the players are playing today. What happens to your list if you leave that out? (I'm not saying do it, just a thought exercise)
    Well, Curry's the clear MVP again this year, but I'm giving the full historic perspective. Curry's 2016 season was a great season, but it's more equivalent to John Stockton '91 than an all-time NBA season in my opinion. Much like NFL QB's tossing 5,000 yards each season benefiting from hyper-offensive rules in the mid-to-late 90s, many of today's parameters players owe a great deal of their success to NBA rules changes, specifically, the 2004-05 set of rules proceeding Kobe's 35+ PPG season.

    I'm only interested in how each individual players' season ranks within the history of NBA/ABA to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Unlike your namesake you are outside just raining straight daggers!
    I don't remember what game it was but during the tournament someone hit a 3 about 5 mins into the game and bill rafferty yells "early dagger". I was like when did this guy become a comedian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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