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  1. #1
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    Yu Darvish to have Tommy John surgery

    Damn, this team is incredibly unlucky. They just can't stay healthy.

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    Excuse me while I search for a very tall bridge...


    Un ****ING real how ****** a run of injuries this team has had

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    Such bad luck, I love watching him pitch too. Cant imagine Texas competing without him unless they make a deal for Hamels and even that is a reach.

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    Everybody knew that was the sort of injury that was going to cause recurring problems and be an issue all year.

    It isn't like he's ever been a real stud "workhorse". 2013 was the only year he even exceeded 200 innings.

    I had to laugh when earlier this year they had a thread about the "best players in the game" and a lot of these people were arguing that Darvish was better than Verlander.

    Darvish has always been a media creation (who had one solid year 2013 - 277K in 209.2 innings), outside of that he's been injury-prone and pedestrian.

    (Waiting for advanced sabermetric rebuttal. *yawn*)

    Now, they're talking about possible Tommy John surgery.

    Yu Darvish is considering the possibility of undergoing Tommy John surgery after tests revealed that the Texas Rangers ace has a sprained ligament in his pitching elbow.
    http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/...y-john-surgery
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    Quote Originally Posted by JV35 View Post
    Everybody knew that was the sort of injury that was going to cause recurring problems and be an issue all year.

    It isn't like he's ever been a real stud "workhorse". 2013 was the only year he even exceeded 200 innings.

    I had to laugh when earlier this year they had a thread about the "best players in the game" and a lot of these people were arguing that Darvish was better than Verlander.

    Darvish has always been a media creation (who had one solid year 2013 - 277K in 209.2 innings), outside of that he's been injury-prone and pedestrian.

    (Waiting for advanced sabermetric rebuttal. *yawn*)

    Now, they're talking about possible Tommy John surgery.



    http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/...y-john-surgery
    Pedestrian? One solid year? He's been a top of the rotation starter each of the three years he's been here.

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    now they got to get Hamels or Lee. could this trade work, hamels for C Jorge Alfaro, SP Jake Thompson, and SS/3B Travis Demeritte

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryred View Post
    now they got to get Hamels or Lee. could this trade work, hamels for C Jorge Alfaro, SP Jake Thompson, and SS/3B Travis Demeritte
    That wouldn't even get Amaro's attention. Have you seen the kind of packages he's been expecting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryred View Post
    now they got to get Hamels or Lee. could this trade work, hamels for C Jorge Alfaro, SP Jake Thompson, and SS/3B Travis Demeritte
    LMAO at Texas giving up that much....not a chance in hell.

    And there really is no point in making a trade right now. First, teams know you are desperate, and two, you aren't going to be able to replace Darvish with a trade.

    Texas has to go into this season with what they have and see if they stay competitive, then make a deadline deal if they are.

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    really that is a lot for the rangers to give up, if he don't like that trade then just come out and say we are not going to trade him because teams are not going to give up more than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryred View Post
    really that is a lot for the rangers to give up, if he don't like that trade then just come out and say we are not going to trade him because teams are not going to give up more than that
    I'm not commenting on whether it's fair value or anything like that. Amaro has just been really unrealistic in what he's expecting, and that package isn't close to what he's holding out for. He was expecting ALL THREE of Pederson/Urias/Seager from the Dodgers and won't listen to the Cubs without Addison Russell being included. He's said that he won't consider trading Hamels unless he's "the clear winner" of the trade. He's openly not looking to get merely fair value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rynoplasty View Post
    ..Originally Posted by jerryred: ..really that is a lot for the rangers to give up, if he don't like that trade then just come out and say we are not going to trade him because teams are not going to give up more than that..
    I'm not commenting on whether it's fair value or anything like that. Amaro has just been really unrealistic in what he's expecting, and that package isn't close to what he's holding out for. He was expecting ALL THREE of Pederson/Urias/Seager from the Dodgers and won't listen to the Cubs without Addison Russell being included. He's said that he won't consider trading Hamels unless he's "the clear winner" of the trade. He's openly not looking to get merely fair value.
    As the GM, if the perception by the Phillies owner is that Reuben Amaro "caved" and gave away his best player, under team control for a reason length of time, then, without a doubt, Amaro would be pushed out the door. This is what is reflected in the comment about what Amaro has to do w/r to a Cole Hamels trade. That said, it's in the best interest of the Phillies to "win" a trade..whether that be Cole Hamels or anyone.. There is no doubt, the Phillies trading of Cole Hamels must bring back the kind of certainty that isn't necessarily found in most baseball trades..

    Some team are of the opinion that their minor league players.. are NOT currency.. That is.. they're not going to trade a kid that they've drafted, developed and believe will be the kind of player they envisioned when they were drafted, traded for or signed. In addition to the performance.. there are emotional ties that bind..and remain bound..

    In this case, the Dodgers, intellectually should give up at least two of those three to make a deal.. they won't. For the Cubs..same thing.. Both clubs have decided they would prefer to keep their kids.. There's a GOOD reason why a GM like Amaro wants those guys.. The same holds true for the Mets..they'd be dumb as fence posts to give up on any one of their core group of SP's.

    At the end of the day..the Rangers have the prospects to get a TORP in trade..if they chose to trade. The Phillies, aren't the only game in town..coughwashingtonnationalscough...

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    Sad to hear
    Be $wavy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young2Kinsler View Post
    LMAO at Texas giving up that much....not a chance in hell.

    And there really is no point in making a trade right now. First, teams know you are desperate, and two, you aren't going to be able to replace Darvish with a trade.

    Texas has to go into this season with what they have and see if they stay competitive, then make a deadline deal if they are.
    Deadline deal would be even more costly and you can easily replace Darvish with a Healthy Lee or Hamels.

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    Brett Gardner is sad to hear this

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    Poor rangers. They didn't have a chance this season before this injury now.....

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