MMA Quick Hits 9: The Steroid Era Begins?

[ROY 2 MVP Braun]

Myles Jury out, Paul Felder in against Edson Barboza at UFC on FOX 16 http://t.co/xNWWrIyS5Y http://t.co/AyEbmOMkHW

Good maybe they put him back vs Pettis again Just at a later date.

[Thumper 88]

I like that fight idea

[Thumper 88]

JDS interview.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/6/11/8769095/fired-up-junior-dos-santos-baffled-as-to-why-media-keeps-asking-about

This interview will bring you up to date with everything JDS.

1. He said he wants to fight a long time.

2. He wants a 4th fight with Cain

3. He doesn't like overreem

And many more

[Thumper 88]

Due to complications with Hall's visa, the middleweight bout between @UriahHallMMA and @JotkoMMA is off #UFCBerlin http://t.co/ULKS4GQEYS

[SLY WILLIAMS]

JDS interview.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/6/11...s-asking-about

This interview will bring you up to date with everything JDS.

1. He said he wants to fight a long time.

2. He wants a 4th fight with Cain

3. He doesn't like overreem

And many more

JDS seems like such a nice guy. He was always smiling during his interview. I felt horrible watching him vs Cain.

[SLY WILLIAMS]

I just went back and watched Brock vs Cain. Brock won the first 2 minutes of that fight but he was gassed soon after. Normally Cain is the stronger guy but in the first 2 minutes of that fight Brock showed a small edge in strength. Brock looks totally gassed at the 2:40 mark. I do not know if could be fully healthy and in shape while gassing out so fast. Brock went for a take down and missed then stumbled and spun across the ring despite not really being hit. That did not look like a guy in fight condition.

[SLY WILLIAMS]

I was just reading about Donald Cerrone. The guy has had 10 fights in 2 years. That is almost a fight every other month. That seems pretty rare for a guy at his level.

[Thumper 88]

I just went back and watched Brock vs Cain. Brock won the first 2 minutes of that fight but he was gassed soon after. Normally Cain is the stronger guy but in the first 2 minutes of that fight Brock showed a small edge in strength. Brock looks totally gassed at the 2:40 mark. I do not know if could be fully healthy and in shape while gassing out so fast. Brock went for a take down and missed then stumbled and spun across the ring despite not really being hit. That did not look like a guy in fight condition.

Brock could have been great IMHO if he never fell ill

[McFlurry]

Brock could have been great IMHO if he never fell ill

I am thinking above average. Yes, his illness ended his championship reign early but he was really a one trick pony. He would have won against guys who couldnt stop takedowns, he would have lost against top guys that could.

[SLY WILLIAMS]

I am thinking above average. Yes, his illness ended his championship reign early but he was really a one trick pony. He would have won against guys who couldnt stop takedowns, he would have lost against top guys that could.

I would have liked to see him fight a few more guys before his illness so we could have a better idea of Brocks ceiling. Before his illness it was hard to imagine anyone stopping his power double leg. Even after his illness when he was a shell of himself he was able to take down Cain and Carwin. Not too many other people have.

[tnewkirk]

anyone who knows anything about mma will tell you lesnar's standup was atrocious, you cant be a great fighter if you suck at stand up, especially when you hate getting hit, which he did. if lesnar got into mma in early 20s or earlier, then maybe he could have been great.

stop blaming it on the illness, once again, he recovered 100%, physically anyway.

[Thumper 88]

anyone who knows anything about mma will tell you lesnar's standup was atrocious, you cant be a great fighter if you suck at stand up, especially when you hate getting hit, which he did. if lesnar got into mma in early 20s or earlier, then maybe he could have been great.

stop blaming it on the illness, once again, he recovered 100%, physically anyway.

You can't really think he was back to where he was before illness?

While he's stand up was awful he was still improving his skills as seen on the Carwin chock out

[SLY WILLIAMS]

You can't really think he was back to where he was before illness?

While he's stand up was awful he was still improving his skills as seen on the Carwin chock out

Brock was a shell of himself after he came back. He was not even close to being as physically strong and he had no stamina. That illness was serious and I think he felt the repercussions of it twice.

[McFlurry]

He was clearly not the same fighter when he came back but he was still only a one trick pony. You could compare him to Tito really. Good takedowns, great cardio, good gnp. Although Brocks takedowns were amazing comparatively and Titos standup was better you get my point though. At the end of the day, he had some of the best takedowns we have seen and he could go for hours, at the beginning, but the Cain's and JDS's of the world would have gotten around that I believe.

He would have been a guy that would win 2 or 3, lose 1, maybe get another streak together but he would always hover outside the top 5. I do agree if he was able to start much earlier he could have developed his standup and made it somewhat acceptable and been a guy who could have really dominated the sport. Although I would have loved to see him be able to stay around longer, I am not sure his career would have been much different at this point, healthy or not.

[tnewkirk]

Brock was a shell of himself after he came back. He was not even close to being as physically strong and he had no stamina. That illness was serious and I think he felt the repercussions of it twice.

lol what are you talking about, he was still bigger than carwin even after the surgery. the illness was serious, the doctors and ufc take it very serious, and allowed him to fight, cause he recovered a 100%

you think the ufc would allow a fighter to fight if he was seriously injured still? **** no, if you get a concussion you're not allowed to fight for months.

btw he still beat carwin after the surgery, showed great stamina also lol. then lost to cain, cause cain is a much much better fighter..