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  1. #1
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    No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning

    The universe may have existed forever, according to a new model that applies quantum correction terms to complement Einstein's theory of general relativity. The model may also account for dark matter and dark energy, resolving multiple problems at once.

    The widely accepted age of the universe, as estimated by general relativity, is 13.8 billion years. In the beginning, everything in existence is thought to have occupied a single infinitely dense point, or singularity. Only after this point began to expand in a "Big Bang" did the universe officially begin. Although the Big Bang singularity arises directly and unavoidably from the mathematics of general relativity, some scientists see it as problematic because the math can explain only what happened immediately after—not at or before—the singularity.

    "The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there," Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, both in Egypt, told Phys.org.
    Ali and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, have shown in a paper published in Physics Letters B that the Big Bang singularity can be resolved by their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end.

    http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-qua...-universe.html

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    What? You mean the science isn't settled on this?

    lol
    "But yeah...this is the BLM era and the Dems are running a mass incarceration ticket." ManRam

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    I think in the time that humans exist, they will never know the answer to this. Not discouraging the pursuit of finding out by any means, but just my feelings.

    Something existing forever is hard to comprehend, akin to the size of the universe.
    Time for some hootenanny.

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    Factually incorrect. The idea you are referring to is the quantifiable idea of a multiverse. I.E. We will never be able to predict how old universal collapses and creations have been occurring since it will never be in our capabilities (through Einstein’s theory” to ever escape our own universe for testing. The age of our particular universe is very well understood and completely quantifiable. Knowledge is power, but just a little bit of knowledge is far more dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    What? You mean the science isn't settled on this?

    lol
    Enlighten us with your religious answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    What? You mean the science isn't settled on this?

    lol
    That is what science does. Of course you wouldn't know that would you. Unlike religion, science doesn't lock into a 2000 year old fairytale in perpetuity.

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    5 and a half years later....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    5 and a half years later....
    I will check back on this thread in 2025 to see if there are any additional anti-science comments from 15th century minds.

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