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  1. #1201
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jet11 View Post
    I think ultimately, if EE were moved, you could conceivably get Bautista some more reps at DH, to allow adequate time for his shoulder to heal. With a year and a half of control for Edwin, the time to move him for the greatest return might be now. If we can pull a quality SP with some control in an EE trade, and find a way to nab a decent OF for the stretch drive I could see this being a pretty good time to make an impact move.

    I'd hate to see edwin go, but he's a very marketable piece... and it's abundantly clear that we could use an upgrade in the rotation.

    I wonder if the Nationals would look to make a move to solidify 1B (Tyler Moore hasn't been terrific, and R. Zimmerman has been off/on suffering from Plantar Faciaitis). They're crazy banged up right now.

    Their window is clearly now, and a bat like Edwin's hitting behind Harper would be a huge asset for them going forward. The Nats would also be a contending squad that Edwin would probably consider waiving his 10/5 rights for.

    The Nats have some interesting young arms, and a SS (Trea Turner) that I've liked since before he was drafted by the Padres.

    Perhaps a move of Edwin for Trea Turner and Joe Ross would help both clubs, as it would land us a pitcher and a solid hitting prospect that will mature alongside the rest of our up-and-comers, and we can use some of our existing prospect capital to swing a larger deal (Perhaps with the Reds - Cueto/Chapman... dreaming...). Turner and Ross is probably an over-pay for a season and a half of Edwin - even though they'd recoup a 1st round pick, AND he's on a great contract - but I think it would certainly be worth exploring. Turner and Travis up the middle going forward would be very dynamic.

    This type of Edwin trade would be the kind of thing that I can see AA exploring.
    I like it... good thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jet11 View Post
    I think ultimately, if EE were moved, you could conceivably get Bautista some more reps at DH, to allow adequate time for his shoulder to heal. With a year and a half of control for Edwin, the time to move him for the greatest return might be now. If we can pull a quality SP with some control in an EE trade, and find a way to nab a decent OF for the stretch drive I could see this being a pretty good time to make an impact move.

    I'd hate to see edwin go, but he's a very marketable piece... and it's abundantly clear that we could use an upgrade in the rotation.

    I wonder if the Nationals would look to make a move to solidify 1B (Tyler Moore hasn't been terrific, and R. Zimmerman has been off/on suffering from Plantar Faciaitis). They're crazy banged up right now.

    Their window is clearly now, and a bat like Edwin's hitting behind Harper would be a huge asset for them going forward. The Nats would also be a contending squad that Edwin would probably consider waiving his 10/5 rights for.

    The Nats have some interesting young arms, and a SS (Trea Turner) that I've liked since before he was drafted by the Padres.

    Perhaps a move of Edwin for Trea Turner and Joe Ross would help both clubs, as it would land us a pitcher and a solid hitting prospect that will mature alongside the rest of our up-and-comers, and we can use some of our existing prospect capital to swing a larger deal (Perhaps with the Reds - Cueto/Chapman... dreaming...). Turner and Ross is probably an over-pay for a season and a half of Edwin - even though they'd recoup a 1st round pick, AND he's on a great contract - but I think it would certainly be worth exploring. Turner and Travis up the middle going forward would be very dynamic.

    This type of Edwin trade would be the kind of thing that I can see AA exploring.
    i mean sure if u can get Turner and Ross for EE you do it in a second since Ross can join the rotation right now and Turner alone could get you cueto

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    The site that shall not be named claims Cueto, Shark and Leake are at the top of our list. Imagine if AA swung a deal for Cueto and Leake.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    Facts can be hypothetical.

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    Norris, Sanchez, Boyd + for Cueto, Leake and Chapman. Total wet dream but it would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bomber0104 View Post
    i mean sure if u can get Turner and Ross for EE you do it in a second since Ross can join the rotation right now and Turner alone could get you cueto
    Yeah, pretty much... I do that trade in a heartbeat but I also have a HUGE man crush on Trea Turner. Loved him even before he was drafted and he's performing great, his stock is at an all time high. Don't even think I'd trade him for Cueto, in all honesty... depends how far back we are and what the other parameters are.

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    Stroman, Hoffman, Osuna are my only untouchables for young guys. I'd even say Norris because I think he's going to be good but that's my opinion. Hutch, Sanchez, Penta should get you Cueto and something.

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    Honestly I think you guys are going to be surprised what Cueto gets. Rentals don't get much anymore, it's one top 50-100 spec and filler. Maybe two if someone gets desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twitchy View Post
    Honestly I think you guys are going to be surprised what Cueto gets. Rentals don't get much anymore, it's one top 50-100 spec and filler. Maybe two if someone gets desperate.
    If that's the case, I hope we're all over it! I'd give up say, Pompey, for a chance at the playoffs.

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    It's been the case for every rental SP since they added a second WC and got rid of compensation for traded players. Hopefully the Jays can pull something off, but one guy isn't enough .

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    Trade Ideas Thread III

    I wonder what Paps is gonna take to get? To me he's worth the price tag money wise. Plus I'm sure Philly will pay some of the deal. Jays could unload him in the offseason if his price tag is just to much for Rogers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twitchy View Post
    It's been the case for every rental SP since they added a second WC and got rid of compensation for traded players. Hopefully the Jays can pull something off, but one guy isn't enough .
    There's only 14 starts left. I think you're right. You need someone else so that the total impact of the "help" is more than 14 of the remaining 70 games.

  12. #1212
    Quote Originally Posted by StayOnBoard View Post
    If that's the case, I hope we're all over it! I'd give up say, Pompey, for a chance at the playoffs.
    Unfortunately though, this team is more than 1 ace SP away from contention. They need an ace and at least a #3 type...PLUS a lefty specialist AND a closer. They need a LF. That's 5 roster players...not gonna happen, and I think they know that...hence...I think this team is in seller mode come trade deadline. Just too many holes that would completely deplete the prospect pool.

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    It's a fair point. EE is streaky and probably has his best at bats this year ahead of him.

    Trade Hutch and Boyd for the best pitching possible. A package around Hutch could get us someone controllable. Maybe Padres.

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    They don't need a LF. Colabello and eventually Saunders have that handled. If they get an Ace and #3 type then Sanchez is the closer. If he's not dealt then Norris can be the lefty out of the bullpen.

    So really they need two players. They just both need to be decent pitchers.

    Use Hutch to get a controllable Padres pitcher. Ross or Cashner

    Boyd + to get Kazmir or Shark

    SS Reyes
    3B Donaldson
    RF Bautista
    DH Encarncion
    C Martin
    1B Colabello/Smoak
    2B Travis
    LF Saunders
    CF Pillar

    Ross/Cashner
    Buerhle
    Kazmir/Shark
    Estrada
    Dickey/Doubront

    Sanchez
    Osuna
    Cecil
    Delabar
    Norris
    Loup
    Hendricks

    Valencia
    Smoak
    Goins
    Navarro

    You can't tell me that lineup has that many holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500 Level View Post
    They don't need a LF. Colabello and eventually Saunders have that handled. If they get an Ace and #3 type then Sanchez is the closer. If he's not dealt then Norris can be the lefty out of the bullpen.

    So really they need two players. They just both need to be decent pitchers.

    Use Hutch to get a controllable Padres pitcher. Ross or Cashner

    Boyd + to get Kazmir or Shark

    SS Reyes
    3B Donaldson
    RF Bautista
    DH Encarncion
    C Martin
    1B Colabello/Smoak
    2B Travis
    LF Saunders
    CF Pillar

    Ross/Cashner
    Buerhle
    Kazmir/Shark
    Estrada
    Dickey/Doubront

    Sanchez
    Osuna
    Cecil
    Delabar
    Norris
    Loup
    Hendricks

    Valencia
    Smoak
    Goins
    Navarro

    You can't tell me that lineup has that many holes.
    Colabello is light years away from handling LF

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