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    I actually didn't know that Tuck was going to be available. I'm a Tuck fan and that would be a huge upgrade to our line. Tuck is a great leader as well. He and McCoy would be nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdubbz View Post
    I actually didn't know that Tuck was going to be available. I'm a Tuck fan and that would be a huge upgrade to our line. Tuck is a great leader as well. He and McCoy would be nasty.
    He'd be great for our young group especially Gholston.. He could groom and mentor that kid into something special. Gholston has the tools and mindset to be a great starter down the road.. He flashed a lot of that last season.

    Bringing in Tuck wouldn't affect Clayborn either because he plays at the LDE spot

    But if we bring in a Allen or Peppers they will be taking over the RDE spot. Your not gonna be giving big money to an established vet to switch sides.. Then what are you gonna do with Clayborn? There are doubts that he can play LDE because he was born with Erb's palsy, a condition that caused sporadic paralysis in his upper right arm..

    We might be looking for 2 starting DE's or we start Gholston at LDE and have Clayborn come off the bench if that's the case.
    Last edited by bucc4life; 02-08-2014 at 04:31 PM. Reason: Added to it.

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    Trying to predict what this new regime will do has proven to difficult for me as I tend to over think things so this is me putting my GM hat on and having fun with it instead.

    Pay cuts:
    Davin Joseph
    Jeremy Zuttah
    Donald Penn
    Connor Barth

    Extension:
    Gerald McCoy - 5 years (49-52 million)

    Re-signed
    Erik Lorig
    Dekoda Watson
    Jamon Meredith
    Andrew Economos

    Cut/not re-signed (notable)
    Michael Koenen
    Luke Stocker
    Tom Crabtree
    Chris Owusu
    Adam Hayward
    Jonathan Casillas
    Tiquan Underwood
    Danny Gorrer
    Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
    Ted Larsen

    Free agents signed:
    Jared Allen
    Karlos Dansby
    Mark Sanchez
    Andre Roberts
    Devin Hester
    Ben Hartsock
    Jim Dray

    DRAFT DAY TRADE (Julio Jones type trade) Sammy Watkins: Traded down with SF (2nd round pick, 4th round pick, 6th round pick and a 2015 1st round pick acquired)

    2014 draft class
    1. Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
    2. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
    2. Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor
    4. Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
    4. Jordan Zumwalt, ILB, UCLA
    5. Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
    6. Aaron Lynch, DE, South Florida
    7. Tom Hornsey, P, Memphis
    7. Gabe Ikard, C, Oklahoma (compensatory pick)

    UDFA
    Dustin Vaughan, QB, West Texas AM
    Viliami Moala, DT, California
    Maurice Alexander, SS, Utah State


    OFFENSE

    QB
    Mike Glennon
    Mark Sanchez
    Dustin Vaughan

    RB
    Doug Martin
    Mike James
    Bobby Rainey
    Jeff Demps

    FB
    Erik Lorig

    WR
    Vincent Jackson
    Mike Williams
    Andre Roberts
    Jared Abbrederis
    Devin Hester

    TE
    Tim Wright
    Ben Hartsock
    Jim Dray

    LT
    Donald Penn

    LG
    Carl Nicks

    C
    Jeremy Zuttah
    Gabe Ikard

    RG
    Davin Joseph
    Cyril Richardson

    RT
    Demar Dotson
    Jamon Meredith
    Seantrel Henderson

    DEFENSE

    RDE
    Jared Allen
    Adrian Clayborn
    Aaron Lynch

    LDE
    William Gholston
    Da'Quan Bowers

    DT
    Gerald McCoy
    Timmy Jernigan
    Akeem Spence
    Viliami Moala

    WLB
    Lavonte David
    Damaso Munoz

    MLB
    Karlos Dansby
    Jordan Zumwalt

    SLB
    Mason Foster
    Dekoda Watson

    CB
    Darrell Revis
    Johnathan Banks
    Jason Verrett
    Leonard Johnson
    D.J. Moore

    FS
    Dashon Goldson
    Keith Tandy

    SS
    Mark Barron
    Maurice Alexander

    K
    Connor Barth

    P
    Tom Hornsey

    LS
    Andrew Economos

    KR
    Devin Hester
    Jeff Demps

    PR
    Devin Hester

    TE: Jason Licht is high on Timmy Wright, as am I so I'd look for a solid blocking TE in free agency as the #2 on the depth chart. I don't know what type of offense Tedford will run but I'm doubting it'll feature a two TE passing attack, even though it might be ideal? Knowing how Glennon's *** likes to hold on to the ball..

    OL: I'm hoping we keep our vet OL at a reduced price and Nicks fights his way back to the starting line up. I had us drafting a OG late in the 2nd round (KC pick from SF) for depth and as an insurance policy (Carl Nicks) i'd like to see Jeremy Zuttah play full time at center where he's most effective. Would also like to have Meredith back for depth and a stop gap until Seantrel Henderson can develop into a capable swing tackle back up or something more..

    WR: Andre Roberts will be an underrated signing. He's an instant upgrade over Underwood, the dude can play inside and outside with + speed, allowing V-Jax to create mismatches more often in the slot. Having 5 WR's will help Jeff Demps contribute as a PR/HB/WR threat (Dexter McCluster style)

    DE: Jared Allen is somewhat declining due to age? But he can still put pressure on QB's like a +10 sack artist can. Having GMC will make his job so much easier and that has to be attractive to him as a destination. William Gholston showed flashes last season and I'm not sure Clayborn can play LDE? Maybe they can work around it somehow?

    I took Timmy Jernigan because he was the best player available.. Teams like MIA, DAL, NYG and CHI could select him but those teams have other needs + their own DT free agents they could retain. Jason Verrett had an outstanding combine performance, I believe his size (5'9 189) will drop him to the 2nd round, he would be the PERFECT nickel in our defense. The guy has 1st round talent for sure so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes in the 1st round. Jared Abbrederis has #2 potential so if Mike Williams tries to test Lovie's patience he can eventually replace him. Other picks are more special teams/developmental prospects like Jordan Zumwalt who would be a special teams standout immediately. You can tell I'm a defense kind of guy with my picks haha

    Still have a lot of cap room available.. I could have targeted more free agents or found upgrades but didn't.

    I know you guys are set in ur ways and would do something completely different so let's see it, now that the combine is done and over with.
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    I love mostly everything B4L^

    I would say ney on Mark Sanchez. Although I think your first pick is a decent one, I would be a little disappointed. The rest of your draft is great. Andre Roberts and Hester would be two really good signings. Great job.

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    Here's my latest mock. Post combine. No trades scenario.

    2014 Draft:
    1. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas Tech
    2. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
    4. Telvin Smith, ILB, FSU
    5. Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh
    7. Dri Archer, WR/KR/RB, Kent State
    7. Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon (compensatory pick)

    UDFA:
    Trey Burton, TE, Florida
    Jordan Lynch, QB, Northern Illinois
    Howard Jones, DE, Shepherd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdubbz View Post
    Here's my latest mock. Post combine. No trades scenario.

    2014 Draft:
    1. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas Tech
    2. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
    4. Telvin Smith, ILB, FSU
    5. Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh
    7. Dri Archer, WR/KR/RB, Kent State
    7. Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon (compensatory pick)

    UDFA:
    Trey Burton, TE, Florida
    Jordan Lynch, QB, Northern Illinois
    Howard Jones, DE, Shepherd
    Looks good except for Manziel. I honestly don't see him getting past Cleveland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5surretts View Post
    Looks good except for Manziel. I honestly don't see him getting past Cleveland.
    You're probably right, but we've all seen crazier stuff on draft day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdubbz View Post
    I love mostly everything B4L^

    I would say ney on Mark Sanchez. Although I think your first pick is a decent one, I would be a little disappointed. The rest of your draft is great. Andre Roberts and Hester would be two really good signings. Great job.
    Thanks G

    I believe Mark Sanchez gets a bad rap, in my opinion he has a lot to offer and to me he'd be a better option at QB in a slim picking free agent pool

    My first pick was an attempt to get this defense to resemble our glory day defense with J.Allen as our S.Rice, Jernigan as Booger to go along GMC, David, Revis and Goldson.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdubbz View Post
    Here's my latest mock. Post combine. No trades scenario.

    2014 Draft:
    1. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas Tech
    2. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
    4. Telvin Smith, ILB, FSU
    5. Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh
    7. Dri Archer, WR/KR/RB, Kent State
    7. Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon (compensatory pick)

    UDFA:
    Trey Burton, TE, Florida
    Jordan Lynch, QB, Northern Illinois
    Howard Jones, DE, Shepherd
    That's a boss looking draft, talk about speed in space!

    Telvin Smith is very intriguing.. He's a type of player you could move around everywhere and create havoc especially if it's a blitz design but I'm curious to see what he will be listed as? MLB? SS? DE?? Being 6'3 218 pounds he's still growing into his own.
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    Heres my first stab at this for this off season lol

    Free agents:
    QB Josh McCown
    OT Michael Oher
    LB D’Qwell Jackson
    DE Will Smith
    DE/DT Israel Idonije
    CB Charles Tillman
    S Craig Steltz
    WR Sidney Rice
    WR Jacoby Ford

    Released:
    P Michael Koenen

    Trades
    1st Round and 4th Round in 2014, 2nd Round in 2015 to Oakland For 1st Round in 2014
    Donald Penn to Miami for a 4th Round Pick in 2014
    Adrian Clayborn to Jacksonville for a 6th Round in 2014

    2014 Draft
    1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
    2. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
    4. OG Chris Watt, Notre Dame
    5. OT Seantrel Henderson, Miami
    6. P Kirby Van Der Kamp, Iowa State
    6. DT Ryan Carrethers, Arkansas State (Compensatory Pick)
    7. WR Jeremy Gallon, Michigan

    OFFENSE

    QB Glennon, McCown
    RB Martin, James, Rainey, Demps
    FB Lorig
    WR Jackson, Streeter
    WR Rice, Ford
    Slot Williams, Gallon
    TE ASJ, Wright, Crabtree
    LT Dotson/Oher, Meredith
    LG Nicks, Watt
    C Zuttah, Larsen
    RG Joseph
    RT Oher/Dotson, Henderson

    DEFENSE

    RDE Clowney, Bowers
    DT McCoy, Idonije
    DT Spence, Carrethers
    LDE Smith, Gholston
    WLB David, Munoz
    MLB Jackson, Watson
    SLB Foster, Hayward
    CB Revis, Adams, Gaitor
    CB Tillman, Banks, Johnson/Gorrer
    FS Goldson, Tandy
    SS Barron, Steltz

    K Barth
    P Van Der Kamp
    LS Andrew Economos
    KR Demps, Ford
    PR Demps
    Last edited by Brewhouse94; 02-28-2014 at 04:47 PM. Reason: Wrong McCown

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    ^^^ good stuff.

    You might have to pick that punter in the 6th being he's the best prospect at his position

    Having two swing tackles as starters would be ideal if we trade away or cut Penn (competition at the position)

    I really like that Watt pick, he's a versatile OG who provides clean depth inside

    That Clowney pick though
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    Well done, Brew. I would be pretty ecstatic with that offseason. Clowney and ASJ would be a dream come true for me. I would prefer to have us hold on to Clayborn, though, unless we can get a much better draft pick. He is much more valuable than a 6th round pick IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdubbz View Post
    You're probably right, but we've all seen crazier stuff on draft day.
    Texans: Blake Bortles, QB, UCF

    Rams: Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn

    Jaguars: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina

    Browns: Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

    Raiders: Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville or Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo

    Falcons: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M

    Buccaneers: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M

    Anything can happen.

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    @bucc4life,

    I don't like the Sanchez pickup either. Michael Vick is superior in pretty much every statistical category including accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucboy1001 View Post
    @bucc4life,

    I don't like the Sanchez pickup either. Michael Vick is superior in pretty much every statistical category including accuracy.
    I just see more potential in Sanchez over a guy like Vick or McCown who've reached theirs.. A change of culture/scenery does wonders for a lot of players. He's not your cup of tea, along with a lot of other people and I get that, but I just choose to look beyond the bs.. IMO (I might be the only one) he can give Glennon a run at starting, having Tedford and Arroyo behind him would help him tremendously, and in the process would give Glennon really good competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucc4life View Post
    I just see more potential in Sanchez over a guy like Vick or McCown who've reached theirs.. A change of culture/scenery does wonders for a lot of players. He's not your cup of tea, along with a lot of other people and I get that, but I just choose to look beyond the bs.. IMO (I might be the only one) he can give Glennon a run at starting, having Tedford and Arroyo behind him would help him tremendously, and in the process would give Glennon really good competition.
    I would be surprised if he did beat Glennon b/c his numbers last year (when everything went wrong) were still better than anything Sanchez has put up (and I'm not a Glennon fan). I do agree that Sanchez would be better with a change of scenery, however I would rather we look in another direction.

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