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  1. #1
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    Why isn't Washington a better team?

    I thought they'd destroy last year but injuries took foot. This year, though, I expected them to be a #5-7 seed. Yet, they're toiling around at around .500.


    Why is a team with these guys not dominating?

    John Wall
    Bradly Beal
    Marcin Gortat
    Trevor Ariza
    Nene Hilario

    Those are some pretty damn solid players. Guys that are/could be #2 options or #3 options. Yes, their #1 option (Wall) isn't the best #1 option, but they have a slew of other players which are just great STARTERS for any team.

    So, why do you think they aren't a better team?

    Ewing dunk past Mourning
    GIFSoup
    DANTONI IS:
    -HORRIBLE out of timeouts
    -HORRIBLE D
    -Too many 3's
    -PF is pushed to the 3 point line
    -Doesn't play BIGS
    -Dog Houses players
    -HORRIBLE management of players and motivation

    [QUOTE=Knick4Knack;22330620]
    Go out on your front lawn, take a dump and see how long your neighbors will talk about that little slice of life. That's what Mike D did to this franchise./QUOTE]

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    i mean, they're gonna be 3rd in the east after tonight, lol.

    seriously though there bench is pretty awful, Nene isn't that good and Beal is injured. When Otto Porter comes back maybe they can get something good going but until then they are a .500 team.

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    maybe cuz they have gortwat and the worst looking jerseys?

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    Who on that team plays defense? If you have a team of 15 players and not one of them will sniff an All-Defensive team vote, that says something.

    You also have Wall and Beal eating up half of the total possessions while shooting 41% a piece and turning the ball over at a pretty high rate.
    Last edited by beasted86; 12-02-2013 at 11:51 PM.

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    Injuries, weak bench, no defense, wall is overrated and beal needs more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    Injuries, weak bench, no defense, wall is overrated and beal needs more time.
    haha basically what I was going to say. wall aint no irving

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    irving sucks. wall is way better. do u want pin point passes or pepsi commercial (cokes better anyways). i dont expect a forum of dumbasses to understand talent tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES KOAST View Post
    haha basically what I was going to say. wall aint no irving
    Irving is overrated too but that's a different discussion for a different thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Walls Era View Post
    irving sucks. wall is way better. do u want pin point passes or pepsi commercial (cokes better anyways). i dont expect a forum of dumbasses to understand talent tho.
    u must be smoking sum crack

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    Irving is overrated too but that's a different discussion for a different thread.
    he's not overrated, it not his fault the owner keeps drafting losers.

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    Guys who get a lot of minutes
    John Wall PG - need to work on his shot selection and shooting form, average to good player, but not great
    Marcin Gortat C - needs to be the primary post player in PnR, average to good player, not great
    Nene PF - decent scorer but kills you on rebounding and defense, overall slightly below average player
    Martell Webster, SG/SF - good low volume player that actually has some D, good player
    Bradley Beal, SG - piss poor shot selection and zero ability inside the arc, bad player but only a sophomore
    Trevor Ariza SG/SF - good low volume player that actually has some D, good player

    Guys who shouldn't get minutes, but do
    Eric Maynor PG - can't shoot, overrated defender, below average player
    Garret Temple PG/SG - can't shoot, passable defender, below average player
    Kevin Seraphim PF/C - can't shoot, can't rebound, lots of turnovers, way below average player
    Al Harrington PF - can't shoot, can't rebound, no defense, way below average player

    Guys who should get a lot of minutes, but don't
    Trevor Booker PF - fantastic rebounder and solid defender, plays behind Nene, good player but low minutes
    Jan Vesley PF - fantastic rebounder and possible solid player, plays behind Nene, sophomore and low minutes

    Guys who get no minutes
    Chris Singleton SF - solid role player with virtually no minutes, incomplete
    Otto Porter SF - incomplete

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    So basically, they have a lot of productive players (Trevor Ariza, Martell Webster, Trevor Booker, possibly Jan Vesley, possibly Chris Singleton) who have to share a large chunk of minutes with inferior players (Bradley Beal, Nene, Kevin Seraphim, Al "why is he still employed?" Harrington). Their backup PGs are terrible (Eric Maynor, Garrett Temple) and they have no other options.

    3 average to good starters and 2 below average starters, plus a couple of really bad personnel decisions usually equals about a .500 team. Which is right where they are. Where people overestimate them is a) thinking Beal is a good player when he's actually a bad player with the POTENTIAL to be a good player, and b) thinking because Nene scores a lot he's better than Booker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES KOAST View Post
    he's not overrated, it not his fault the owner keeps drafting losers.
    He was drafted by that owner, so you must agree that he is a loser then...

    I do think Kyrie is a problem and is overrated, but is a very good player. As stated before, that is a topic for a different thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    Guys who get a lot of minutes
    John Wall PG - need to work on his shot selection and shooting form, average to good player, but not great
    Marcin Gortat C - needs to be the primary post player in PnR, average to good player, not great
    Nene PF - decent scorer but kills you on rebounding and defense, overall slightly below average player
    Martell Webster, SG/SF - good low volume player that actually has some D, good player
    Bradley Beal, SG - piss poor shot selection and zero ability inside the arc, bad player but only a sophomore
    Trevor Ariza SG/SF - good low volume player that actually has some D, good player

    Guys who shouldn't get minutes, but do
    Eric Maynor PG - can't shoot, overrated defender, below average player
    Garret Temple PG/SG - can't shoot, passable defender, below average player
    Kevin Seraphim PF/C - can't shoot, can't rebound, lots of turnovers, way below average player
    Al Harrington PF - can't shoot, can't rebound, no defense, way below average player

    Guys who should get a lot of minutes, but don't
    Trevor Booker PF - fantastic rebounder and solid defender, plays behind Nene, good player but low minutes
    Jan Vesley PF - fantastic rebounder and possible solid player, plays behind Nene, sophomore and low minutes

    Guys who get no minutes
    Chris Singleton SF - solid role player with virtually no minutes, incomplete
    Otto Porter SF - incomplete

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    So basically, they have a lot of productive players (Trevor Ariza, Martell Webster, Trevor Booker, possibly Jan Vesley, possibly Chris Singleton) who have to share a large chunk of minutes with inferior players (Bradley Beal, Nene, Kevin Seraphim, Al "why is he still employed?" Harrington). Their backup PGs are terrible (Eric Maynor, Garrett Temple) and they have no other options.

    3 average to good starters and 2 below average starters, plus a couple of really bad personnel decisions usually equals about a .500 team. Which is right where they are. Where people overestimate them is a) thinking Beal is a good player when he's actually a bad player with the POTENTIAL to be a good player, and b) thinking because Nene scores a lot he's better than Booker.
    this post saids it.

    Plus these are players under 30. They need time to build chemistry as their game expand. One of their biggest issues is aside from Beal, they don't have a go to guy. Wall is great but he's not a go to guy.
    when they forget what Kevin Long saids

    I follow rules and appreciate the ignore button

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    I think Detroit and Washington should make a deal surrounding Porter and Monroe. Gives us a young SF to give us a young more traditional starting lineup to work with. This would also give the Wiz a young good 3 in Wall,Beal and Monroe going forward. Of course Washington would have to throw in a 1st rounder though.

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    Bad coaching. And I think this is the problem with the eastern conference overall....if you really think about it, both conferences have roughly the same amount of good players but what the western conference has that the east doesnt have as much is is good coaches.
    Last edited by FOBolous; 12-03-2013 at 02:29 AM.

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