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  1. #1591
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    Quote Originally Posted by HowFit View Post
    We have a lot going for us right now. While both Young and Collins been getting the spotlight, I really like what I'm seeing in Reddish and Hunter. Both look very promising especially Reddish as of late (thanks to Carter). I see a bright future with what we have now and adding another piece or two is just bonus! While Tree been very exciting to watch, I've been thrilled by the improvements of Reddish that I see a 20+/6/4 player in him with good D.

    My question for you, SB75, what are your thoughts on finding the right SG to play alongside with Tree? Man, if we got lucky to get Wiseman I would be thrilled to sign Derozan...


    Collins
    Wiseman
    Reddish
    Young
    Derozan

    Hunter
    Huerter
    Capela (2 more yrs I believe)
    Goodwin
    Fernando
    Bembry
    Deep shooter (2nd rd pick)
    I think as of today Cam is a two/ three able to play either, and Hunter is a three. So as of today, I think itís Cam. While I do think as his body matures he may become more of a three, so the Hawks may have to look at that down the road,

    I donít see the fit right now with DeMar. Heís an exceptional player, so I wouldnít be opposed, but the fit is off for me. Heís more of a slasher and Iso player. I also wonder if that would slow the development of Reddish, Huerter, or Hunter? If the Hawks choose to address the wing position, Iíd like them to go after an established 3 and D player who understands his role, and can assist in the development of the three mentioned above.

    If Iím the Hawks ( and most are not going to like this), Iíd offer John, Dedmon, and future first ( not 2020) picks for Anteokounmpo. He is the only player outside of Anthony Davis, the Hawks should consider parting with assets fit to get ahead of the rebuild curb. Davis is not likely to leave LA. I canít say the same about the Greek Freak in Mil. It would be a huge risk and I would be unwilling to add Trae, Cam, or this years pick in the deal.

    If not I think the Hawks would have to be one of the teams on a short list he should consider in FA. The Hawks will be a playoff team if healthy next season, with or without him. We should be a very intriguing landing spot for him....

    Trae/ Jeff
    Cam/ Huerter
    Hunter/?????
    Anteokounmpo/Skal
    Capela/ Bruno

    Now that would be awesome. If not Iíd resign John, but not to a max deal. His offense is to dependent on Trae to max him. If they do, I think he will be traded.
    Last edited by SB75; 02-24-2020 at 12:28 PM.

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    For the Hawks to get Giannis it would take a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    For the Hawks to get Giannis it would take a lot
    No doubt. Theyíd want Something similar to what the Lakers gave up. That being said Collins ( all be it suspended at one point) has done a lot more to establish his self than anyone the Lakers gave up at that time. That being said it will take another young player and picks. If the Hawks are blessed enough to land in a position to draft Weismann, I would not include that pick, Trae, nor Cam. However I wouldnít give up the package the Lakers gave. As we donít have the pull of an LA, we donít LeBron, nor any assurances from his agent. So as stated above Collins would have to be included, maybe Huerter, and future picks.

    If the pick is not too 3, offering it and Collins should get the ball rolling. As far as LA, I thought they gave to much. However they backed themselves in a corner with all the talk. I thought they should have been able to hold onto Ball in the deal. We would not be in that same position. As we wouldnít be talking about it for a year.

    Greek Freak has said all the right things, however the modern NBA just doesnít keep superstars in small markets. Tim Duncan May be the loan exception and even he is from a past generation. Atlanta is a top ten Market, just takes a winner!

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    Saw a Draft Lottery simulation just last night and in this simulation it has the Hawks picking at #2 and drafting at #2 and with that pick choose Anthony Edwards with their pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    Saw a Draft Lottery simulation just last night and in this simulation it has the Hawks picking at #2 and drafting at #2 and with that pick choose Anthony Edwards with their pick
    Who went number one? And do you support that pick, if it goes as the mock simulated it?

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    In the mock draft simulation it had LaMelo going #1 and it had him going to the Detroit Pistons and honestly I could see it...but Edwards going #2 and playing for his hometown Hawks is almost destiny

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    Just saw the updates for the mocks and it has the Hawks taking PF Onyeka Okongwu as far as the Hawks draft board goes; I would say the future looks bright for the Hawks team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser View Post
    Mock draft 2020:

    1 *Golden St. Anthony Edwards 6-5 225 SG Georgia Fr.
    2 *Cleveland Obi Toppin 6-9 220 PF Dayton So.
    3 Minnesota LaMelo Ball 6-8 180 PG USA Intl.
    4 Atlanta James Wiseman 7-1 235 C Memphis Fr.
    5 Detroit Killian Hayes 6-5 195 PG France Intl.
    6 New York Devin Vassell 6-7 200 SG Florida St. So.
    7 Chicago Tyrese Haliburton 6-5 185 PG Iowa St. So.
    8 Charlotte Onyeka Okongwu 6-9 235 PF/C USC Fr.
    9 Washington Deni Avdija 6-9 210 SF Israel Intl.
    10 Phoenix Isaac Okoro 6-6 215 SG/SF Auburn Fr.
    11 San Antonio Cole Anthony 6-3 185 PG North Carolina Fr.
    12 Sacramento Precious Achiuwa 6-9 225 PF Memphis Fr.
    13 New Orleans Aaron Nesmith 6-6 215 SG/SF Vanderbilt So.
    14 Portland Daniel Oturu 6-10 240 C Minnesota So.
    15 Orlando Patrick Williams 6-7 215 SF/PF Florida St. Fr.
    16 *Minnesota Theo Maledon 6-5 175 PG France Intl.
    17 *Boston RJ Hampton 6-4 175 PG/SG USA Intl.
    18 *Milwaukee Tyrese Maxey 6-2 190 SG Kentucky Fr.
    19 *Brooklyn Kira Lewis 6-3 170 PG Alabama So.
    20 *Philadelphia Vernon Carey 6-10 265 PF/C Duke Fr.
    21 Dallas Josh Green 6-5 200 SG Arizona Fr.
    22 *Memphis Nico Mannion 6-3 190 PG Arizona Fr.
    23 *Denver Jaden McDaniels 6-10 185 SF/PF Washington Fr.
    24 Miami Reggie Perry 6-9 250 PF Mississippi St. So.
    25 *New York Jalen Smith 6-10 215 PF Maryland So.
    26 Boston Jahmius Ramsey 6-3 190 PG/SG Texas Tech Fr.
    27 *Oklahoma Cty Isaiah Stewart 6-9 250 PF/C Washington Fr.
    28 Toronto Saddiq Bey 6-8 215 SF Villanova So.
    29 LA Lakers Elijah Hughes 6-6 215 SG Syracuse Jr.
    30 *Boston Tyler Bey 6-7 215 SF/PF Colorado Jr.
    Iíd definitely be on board if it plays out this way, But I guess you could say Iím pro Weismann so......

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    Anthony Davis, PF, Los Angeles Lakers.

    Brandon Ingram, SF, New Orleans Pelicans. ...

    Fred VanVleet, PG, Toronto Raptors. ...

    Danilo Gallinari, PF, Oklahoma City Thunder. ...

    DeMar DeRozan, SG, San Antonio Spurs. ...

    Montrezl Harrell, PF, Los Angeles Clippers. ...

    Davis Bertans, PF, Washington Wizards. ...

    Jerami Grant, PF, Denver Nuggets.

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    Would Warriors take Collins for their #2? We draft Wiseman with that pick. Thoughts? Just don't see Collins as our star. Just near star level. If I'm correct, this will be Collins last season bf his 1st big paycheck? If so, then would take more than Collins for the #2 pick. Just thinking out loud here...

    Also, Caldwell-Pope, as it looks will become fa. Nice player to play alongside of Trae. Another deep shooter. Def try and sign Rondo as Trae's backup and vet presence.

    Who falls in our lap at #6 will determine who we get. This draft is flat from 1-8, maybe to 10. Edwards, Wiseman and Ball seems pretty legit ad top 3 but never know what can happen from there...

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    Another player I'm curious about is Giannis. Will he accept the Bucks 5yr max after the season? Should they take their chances and hope they can add more players to team to contend, when more likely cannot afford due to Giannis max contract? Or should they trade and get max in return for him? If they wait til near trade deadline, his value will still be somewhat high, but nothing near what he's worth now. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowFit View Post
    Would Warriors take Collins for their #2? We draft Wiseman with that pick. Thoughts? Just don't see Collins as our star. Just near star level. If I'm correct, this will be Collins last season bf his 1st big paycheck? If so, then would take more than Collins for the #2 pick. Just thinking out loud here...

    Also, Caldwell-Pope, as it looks will become fa. Nice player to play alongside of Trae. Another deep shooter. Def try and sign Rondo as Trae's backup and vet presence.

    Who falls in our lap at #6 will determine who we get. This draft is flat from 1-8, maybe to 10. Edwards, Wiseman and Ball seems pretty legit ad top 3 but never know what can happen from there...
    I actually agree with it as GS is win now! James doesnít have the lateral foot speed of a AD or Freak, however he does have the well above average lateral foot speed for a big now. His offense is behind his defense right now, that being said heís a legit 5 and should be a better player than JC in the near future. If Cspela wasnít on the roster, Iíd be all over it. However I think whom ever the Hawks draft will becoming off the bench this year,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
    I actually agree with it as GS is win now! James doesnít have the lateral foot speed of a AD or Freak, however he does have the well above average lateral foot speed for a big now. His offense is behind his defense right now, that being said heís a legit 5 and should be a better player than JC in the near future. If Cspela wasnít on the roster, Iíd be all over it. However I think whom ever the Hawks draft will becoming off the bench this year,
    Hey bud. Good to see you again. Yeah, I feel the same way. As long as it's a guy who could impact us off the bench, then I'm ok with it. After been studying players players lately, I honestly do not know who to pick. That's of course if Edwards, Wiseman and Ball all off the board, and they look to be the taken in the top 3 or 4. I just don't have my hope up like I did earlier. Still good players may come out of this draft and hope our 6th will be one of them...

    I did like the Harris idea but it looks he will return to the Nets. Rondo not too shabby. Backing up Trae would be great but not too sure with idea of him tutoring Trae. He and other kids been playing well and do not want any interference in how Young plays his game. Let him keep playing his game as he'll naturally keep doing better. Just my opinion.

    Hey, as far as Capela, never know what he could do to better this team. May be exactly what we need so no need to trade him. One of best O rebounder who will cover any missed shots, especially by our deep shooters. Would I still trade our #6 and Capela? We might have to do so for the #1 pick as Wiseman could be picked first overall. It's a gamble for sure. The draft is almost completely flat from very 1st pick up to 10-12th pick, if not further. Guess we will see here in less than an hour...
    Last edited by HowFit; 11-18-2020 at 08:30 PM.

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    I do not understand the Okongwu pick at all especially when you have Collins playing the 4 spot and Capella at the 5 playing center and Onyeka basically plays center...unless you move Collins to the 3 spot and have him play small forward and have Onyeka at the 4 (PF) and Capela at the 5 (C)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    I do not understand the Okongwu pick at all especially when you have Collins playing the 4 spot and Capella at the 5 playing center and Onyeka basically plays center...unless you move Collins to the 3 spot and have him play small forward and have Onyeka at the 4 (PF) and Capela at the 5 (C)
    Capela def would be blocking OKONGWU which has me to believe something else is up their their sleeves. Maybe a team contacted the Hawks on making a trade for Okongwu or Capela will be on the move. If a team made an offer to the Hawks for Okongwu, I think it would already have been done. Not sure what else to think here. I actually like him even tho he's 6'9". He very physical....

    I think the Mays pick was a steal at 50. Not sure if he's underrated being he spent 4 years in college but she shows some promises...

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