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View Poll Results: Would Gay have made a difference?

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  • YES! Memphis would be headed to the finals with him.

    11 20.75%
  • Yes, but he only would have help extended a losing series.

    21 39.62%
  • No. The Spurs would have swept Memphis with or without him.

    21 39.62%
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    Would Gay have made a difference?

    After Memphis won their first and second round match-ups against the Clippers and Thunder, many claimed the what-if Gay scenarios were redundant; that the Grizzlies had enough scoring options. I wasn't convinced, most especially because they beat a Clippers squad that was short their leading scoring and rebounder (Griffen) while the Thunder were missing their primary ball handler and second leading scorer (Westbrook). Both those teams are considerably worse without those respective players.

    The Spur swept the series, this is true, but it was one of the closest sweeps in NBA history. Two games went into overtime and the final game was decided in the final minutes with a victory margin of a meager seven points.

    Prince is a great addition to any roster, but not necessarily at the expense of a team's best scorer. And yes, Gay's percentages were down this year, but he's still an All-Star caliber player.


    So the question is: Did the Gay trade ruin Memphis's shot at the NBA finals? Or were these guys only there because of injuries to BG and Westy and would have lost to a healthy Spurs roster with or without Gay, even if he extended the series by a couple of games?


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    Yes, he would have made a difference.... they would have been taken out in the 1st round with him
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    They wouldn't have made it this far. Gay wasn't a fit in memphis. He put up nnumbers but didn't make the team better. with him gone they were able to take on a defensive identity that guided them past LAC and OKC's high powered offenses (even if they were depleted.).

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    with or without him, they wouldn't have made it b/c he's not an efficient shooter and considering he's a volume shooter with poor %s, every possession is key.

    however, who else could have taken over a game for Memphis when basically Memphis had no wing presence. No one to go to on the perimeter when everything inside was shut down. Ginobili/Danny Green and Leonard had a holiday on defense.

    In this series, Gay would probably have helped.



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    It doesn't have to be Gay, but they need a guy who can create a shot in the halfcourt to get to the next level. Pierce is someone they should target but not sure if he would want to play in Memphis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    It doesn't have to be Gay, but they need a guy who can create a shot in the halfcourt to get to the next level. Pierce is someone they should target but not sure if he would want to play in Memphis.
    Why though? Danny Ainge clearly doesn't care about him and the Grizzlies are better than the Celtics

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    It doesn't have to be Gay, but they need a guy who can create a shot in the halfcourt to get to the next level. Pierce is someone they should target but not sure if he would want to play in Memphis.
    I think in this matchup b/w SA and MEM, Gay would have helped significantly. Not just for the team but for Randolph.

    Of course it could be anyone, but lets just say it had to be Gay cuz they had him. Prince's defense has been somewhat irrelevant cuz the Spurs don't rely on Leonard's offense - and the fact that Leonard is shooting amazing percentages, it might as well have been Gay playing defense.

    Gasol has grown up this year big time. which is really offsetting the loss of Gay. but they are still hiding the fact they still need a scorer. They could have let the team grow together and see what Gay could have done with the current roster- only one playoff series together.



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    Quote Originally Posted by c.c. View Post
    Why though? Danny Ainge clearly doesn't care about him and the Grizzlies are better than the Celtics
    Lets face it - Memphis isn't really a desirable market to play in, its hard to convince a guy to CHOOSE to spend his last days there. He is going to have the choice of where he ends up either via trade or buyout. Cs won't send him somewhere without him being OK with it.

    That said, not sure he's the type to really care about market size, national publicity etc...

    Something tells me he tries to make his way back home to a Cali team - Lakers/Clips/Dubs.

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    Considering the production they got from Prince in the playoffs... Yes, I absolutely think Rudy would have made a difference.

    I doubt they would have beat San Antonio, but I would give them a much better shot beating the Spurs with Rudy, than without.

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    i'm not sure it's any of those. i don't think they're better with him as a whole, but he could have stole a game this series for them. however, i'm not even certain the pre-trade grizzlies make it to the WCF with him in the first place.


    he's certainly not turning a sweep into a series win. that's just a stupid opinion to have honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRamForPrez24 View Post
    i'm not sure it's any of those. i don't think they're better with him as a whole, but he could have stole a game this series for them. however, i'm not even certain the pre-trade grizzlies make it to the WCF with him in the first place.


    he's certainly not turning a sweep into a series win. that's just a stupid opinion to have honestly.
    this in just about every way possible. he might steal them a game but they are a better team or equal team without him.
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    maybe memphis with gay can steal 1 or 2 wins against the spurs but spurs will still win the series..









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    Everyone automatically assumes that Rudy Gay helped the team.

    He was a volume scorer that didn't fit, the Grizzlies were a better team with a veteran defensive specialist in Tayshaun Prince. The trade ended up focusing more of the offense on a higher efficiency game with one of the greatest 4, 5 punches in the league in Z bo/Gasol. Also Conley came into his own, as Memphis hoped, as a direct result of the trade

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    I wonder how the Griz woulda done had Dallas accepted the offer to be the 3rd team and trade Memphis Vince Carter

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    Quote Originally Posted by xRipCity View Post
    Everyone automatically assumes that Rudy Gay helped the team.

    He was a volume scorer that didn't fit, the Grizzlies were a better team with a veteran defensive specialist in Tayshaun Prince. The trade ended up focusing more of the offense on a higher efficiency game with one of the greatest 4, 5 punches in the league in Z bo/Gasol. Also Conley came into his own, as Memphis hoped, as a direct result of the trade
    Gay is a better defender than Prince at this point of their careers and Prince doesn't half half the offensive talent Rudy brings.

    Prince was good for Memphis in the regular season, but in the series with San Antonio, they were shown to be too one dimensional. Take away Randolph as a scoring option and the Grizzlies had nothing. Rudy although inefficient, is still a threat on the perimeter, and a guy that can create for himself at the end of shot clocks.

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