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  1. #1
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    Will Hollinger create the NBA's version of Moneyball?

    So the Grizzlies hired John Hollinger into its basketball department. He's not the GM, but he'll still have a reasonable amount of influence.
    How do you think he'll play it? Could we see John Hollinger playing the Moneyball numbers game in a small market team that can't spend the same money as the big cities?
    Of course, the Grizzlies are already a contender.

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    Teams have been using analytics for years. Hollinger is probably behind but brings something tradition front office people don't and I think he'll be successful.
    Quote Originally Posted by effen5 View Post
    2 years ago, this team was worth 650 million dollars. Derrick Rose has played ten games since and now this team is worth a billion dollars. Clearly, it's Tom Thibodeu.

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    Nah. Hollinger is behind the times. Also the Grizzlies are already contenders.

    If he went to the Raptors and they won the championship somehow that be something else.

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    no. this is basketball, not baseball...

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    No... He's not that smart.

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    it must be every NBA writers wet dream to get hired by a team

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    Yea no kidding

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    No! Contrary to what the advanced stat crew believe, basketball is much more a team sport than baseball and advanced stats are dumb in basketball. No matter how smart these advanced stats nerds believe they are

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    This is a completely different game, its not going to work like that.

    Not too mention, just like in the movie Moneyball, youre completely ignoring the gluteny of all star level talent that already actually on the team.

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    More like Jonah Hill than Brad Pitt.

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    No, this is basketball not baseball. Although its a team sport its much more individual reliant.

    Take Lebron, Melo, Durant, Chris Paul off there respective teams and over a number of games youll notice how much they drop off.

    Take Robinson Cano, Hamilton, Pujols, etc off there teams and you can still win without a huge dropoff.

    There is no money ball in basketball really, if your good your good and you will get payed.


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    Morey worked for the Celtics before becoming a GM. I'd imagine Hollinger's on the same track. If he works out in Memphis he'll be a GM within 5 years. THEN we can ask this question, but honestly if Morey can't do it I'm not sure anyone can.
    POOP

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    its a bit different as there's a salary cap,and that cap isnt out of reach for any owner.so it depends on how much the owner is willing to spend.but as for "moneyball" meaning taking advantage of market inefficiencies? most def he will

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonE Coleman View Post
    No, this is basketball not baseball. Although its a team sport its much more individual reliant.

    Take Lebron, Melo, Durant, Chris Paul off there respective teams and over a number of games youll notice how much they drop off.

    Take Robinson Cano, Hamilton, Pujols, etc off there teams and you can still win without a huge dropoff.

    There is no money ball in basketball really, if your good your good and you will get payed.

    you didnt prove any type of point with this post
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    People still don't understand what "moneyball" is.

    It is NOT using advanced stats.

    It is smart economics. You buy things that the market undervalues because the price is lower. If the market undervalues efficiency you get players with high eff, if the market undervalues great defense then you get players who play great defense, if the market undervalues low turnovers you get players who won't turn the ball over. Need I go on?


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    I don't know who any punters are, that's when i go take a piss

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