Who will own NY - Please don't vote if you're a Knicks/Nets fan!!

**Hawkeye15** · 08-06-2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by waveycrockett

Ridiculously small sample sizes for the loss. You must of been one of those ignorant ppl saying arod sucked cuz of his post season numbers.

JJ has played 62 career playoff games, 831 regular season games.

From regular season to playoffs, his PER drops from 16.4 to 13.8. His TS% drops from 52.9 to 49.5. His offensive rating drops from 108 to 101. His WS/48 drop from .097 to .037. He goes from good, to below average across the board. $20 million to get a guy who gives you 16.8 ppg on 41% shooting, for a guy who has given a grand total of 1.9 total win shares in his playoff career.

Now, Amare, in 60 playoff games, and 624 regular season games, goes from a PER of 22.2 to 22.6. TS% stays around the same. Offensive rating stays the same. WS/48 drops by 1/100th of a point. 23/9 on 50% shooting, contributing 7.5 win shares in the same amount of playoff games.

Very distinct difference.

**IIISSKiLL** · 08-06-2012, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jroz

Well I really wish we could see who actually voted but I'm the fool who forgot to enable it..if anyone actually really cares we can always do another thread?

hahah

nah man just start a dwight howard thread there isn't any of those

**waveycrockett** · 08-06-2012, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

JJ has played 62 career playoff games, 831 regular season games.

From regular season to playoffs, his PER drops from 16.4 to 13.8. His TS% drops from 52.9 to 49.5. His offensive rating drops from 108 to 101. His WS/48 drop from .097 to .037. He goes from good, to below average across the board. $20 million to get a guy who gives you 16.8 ppg on 41% shooting, for a guy who has given a grand total of 1.9 total win shares in his playoff career.

Now, Amare, in 60 playoff games, and 624 regular season games, goes from a PER of 22.2 to 22.6. TS% stays around the same. Offensive rating stays the same. WS/48 drops by 1/100th of a point. 23/9 on 50% shooting, contributing 7.5 win shares in the same amount of playoff games.

Very distinct difference.

What is percentage is 62 of 831 games? Like less than 1%? Brilliant way to judge him.

**Hawkeye15** · 08-06-2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by waveycrockett

What is percentage is 62 of 831 games? Like less than 1%? Brilliant way to judge him.

62 playoff games is PLENTY of time to judge a player dude. Just because you don't like the results doesn't change the fact Johnson has been a continual shrinker in the playoffs.

**tcav701** · 08-06-2012, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by waveycrockett

What is percentage is 62 of 831 games? Like less than 1%? Brilliant way to judge him.

its actually 7.5%.

**waveycrockett** · 08-06-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

62 playoff games is PLENTY of time to judge a player dude. Just because you don't like the results doesn't change the fact Johnson has been a continual shrinker in the playoffs.

Its 7.5% of games actually really dumb

**DoMeFavors** · 08-06-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

JJ has played 62 career playoff games, 831 regular season games.

From regular season to playoffs, his PER drops from 16.4 to 13.8. His TS% drops from 52.9 to 49.5. His offensive rating drops from 108 to 101. His WS/48 drop from .097 to .037. He goes from good, to below average across the board. $20 million to get a guy who gives you 16.8 ppg on 41% shooting, for a guy who has given a grand total of 1.9 total win shares in his playoff career.

Now, Amare, in 60 playoff games, and 624 regular season games, goes from a PER of 22.2 to 22.6. TS% stays around the same. Offensive rating stays the same. WS/48 drops by 1/100th of a point. 23/9 on 50% shooting, contributing 7.5 win shares in the same amount of playoff games.

Very distinct difference.

Who pays attention to all of that? Those stats mean nothing. They are made up by someone. Thats the problem with you sometimes you look to much into those kind of stats instead of just watching the game and seeing for yourself. A person can have those stats and hit a game winner and thats all that matters.

**LongIslandIcedZ** · 08-06-2012, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by waveycrockett:23236983

Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

JJ has played 62 career playoff games, 831 regular season games.

From regular season to playoffs, his PER drops from 16.4 to 13.8. His TS% drops from 52.9 to 49.5. His offensive rating drops from 108 to 101. His WS/48 drop from .097 to .037. He goes from good, to below average across the board. $20 million to get a guy who gives you 16.8 ppg on 41% shooting, for a guy who has given a grand total of 1.9 total win shares in his playoff career.

Now, Amare, in 60 playoff games, and 624 regular season games, goes from a PER of 22.2 to 22.6. TS% stays around the same. Offensive rating stays the same. WS/48 drops by 1/100th of a point. 23/9 on 50% shooting, contributing 7.5 win shares in the same amount of playoff games.

Very distinct difference.

What is percentage is 62 of 831 games? Like less than 1%? Brilliant way to judge him.

Well 83 games would be 10%, so I highly doubt 62 is less than 1%. But hey, keep arguing, you're winning.

**Hawkeye15** · 08-06-2012, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by waveycrockett

Its 7.5% of games actually really dumb

Well, then keep hoping he miraculously figures it out come playoff time after not doing so 7 times before..

**Hawkeye15** · 08-06-2012, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by DoMeFavors

Who pays attention to all of that? Those stats mean nothing. They are made up by someone. Thats the problem with you sometimes you look to much into those kind of stats instead of just watching the game and seeing for yourself. A person can have those stats and hit a game winner and thats all that matters.

oh, I don't know. Analysts, media, statiticians, coaches, scouts, GM's, agents, you know, the people who run the NBA.

I have literally no interest in what your opinion of me is, but thank you for offering it.

**KnickaBocka.44** · 08-06-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by DoMeFavors

Who pays attention to all of that? Those stats mean nothing. They are made up by someone. Thats the problem with you sometimes you look to much into those kind of stats instead of just watching the game and seeing for yourself. A person can have those stats and hit a game winner and thats all that matters.

...for that game. We are talking about consistently poor performances--taking your team out of contention. Based on those numbers, it's safe to assume that he has done that to his team in the playoffs more times than he has hit a game winner.

**waveycrockett** · 08-06-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

Well, then keep hoping he miraculously figures it out come playoff time after not doing so 7 times before..

Yea man hopefully by some miracle he can beat those 7% odds

**Aust** · 08-06-2012, 06:37 PM

You should have let it shown who voted. I bet a ton of Knick/Nets voted for their team

**justinnum1** · 08-06-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Austeezy

You should have let it shown who voted. I bet a ton of Knick/Nets voted for their team

No doubt...can a mod change the poll to show who voted?

**BobbyHillSwag** · 08-06-2012, 07:09 PM

I bet justinnum voted for nets, I can guarantee that lol. He would have voted for bobcats over knicks

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