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  1. #1
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    Which teams had the best and worst off-seasons?

    Best- Clippers? Knicks? Mavericks? Hornets? Someone else?

    Worst- Lakers? Magic? Nets? Someone else?

    Why?
    Magic. Red Sox. Colts. Knights.

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    the Nets are reportedly close to signing D12 so we'll see

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    knicks. Thats frontcourt is deadly. Clippers make a good case but losing eric gordon, who has the makings of the next superstar was a little too much. But they did get cp3 and billups.

    I actually think the mavs had a pretty bad offseason losing chandler, barea, stevenson and butler was pretty bad for them. I like the odom acquisition but carter is "half man-half washed up"

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    "Thus" far.

    Despite giving up the mega deal, I like the Clippers offseason. They landed a superstar PG, and a really good one in Billups. Locked up DeAndre Jordan, and signed Caron Butler. They become an instant contender in the West from that alone. Paul is still young, not super young, but young. Billups will give a good year, as will Butler. You kept your young all-star in Blake Griffin, and lock up a potential DOTY winner in his career, Jordan.

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    Celtics had the worst offseason. Didn't get Chris Paul and lost Jeff Green for the season to a heart ailment and have no cap space to adequately replace him.

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    Worst- Warriors

    They were going all in trying to trade for Paul. Paul said signing Chandler would really help if he were to consider signing an extension. Then NY jumped in and signed Chandler.

    Then the Warriors panicked, wasted their amnesty on a 4 million dollar expiring to sign Jordan to an offer sheet which was a lock to get matched, and settled with Kwame Brown for 7 million.

    Horrible.

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    wait the warriors gave 7 million dollars to that scrub k. brown??

    wow

    Worst:

    LA LAKERS - lost out on Paul and Howard
    WARRIORS - didnt get Paul or Chandler
    KINGS - Hayes didnt pass his physical
    ORLANDO - Got Big Baby and lost out on a Howard Trade
    CELTICS - Age and Green went down sad

    Best:

    PACERS - Got West hearing good things about Paul George
    KNICKS - Chandler, Davis, Jordon, Novak, Bibby
    CLIPPERS - CP3, Re-signed DeAndre who by the looks of it is going to have a break out season
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    I would almost have to go with the Nuggets but they have a few guys over seas.
    they didn't lose Nene or Afflalo and locked them up long term.
    picked up some nice rookies in Faried and Hamilton

    I think Hornets did well too

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    check sig, and connect the dots yourself.


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    The Magic have an incomplete. All that matters is Dwight, and nothing else.

    Celtics, Lakers, Nuggets (overseas losses), Warriors, etc. had bad ones.

    Knicks, Clippers, Hornets, Wolves etc. had good ones...

    Not sure the Mavs got better or worse. They're still gonna be amazingly deep.
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    I know theyre the team I root for but clearly the Knicks had a great offseason. Besides them the Clippers have to be called a winner for getting CP3, even with them losing Gordon.

    Warriors had a terrible offseason, so did the lakers and celtics. Also if the Nets dont get D12 then you have to say they were big losers too.
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    Worst:
    Mavs- Chandler brought them toughness that they never had in the paint and on the boards, sure you got Odom but he won't battle down there, now you basically have the same player that'll be on the floor with Odom and Dirk. Losing JJ was a big hit too because he was always able to get in the paint and set up the Jet and other knock down shooters, or just get the opposing teams big men in foul trouble, Vince Carter was a very bad pick up.
    Heat- Might be good but has the potential to be very bad! I think their thought process was to sign both Shane Battey and Curry as tough defenders. But when will Shane touch the floor? Are they going to put Lebron at point and bring him off the bench to play the 3, if so they might be putting Lebron in foul trouble, and we really haven't seen much of him as a on ball defender against one of these quicker PGs they might see in the playoffs like Holliday, Collison, and Rose. Curry also, is just a chump, that was a waste of money by the Heat, would have much rather seen them go after JJ with both Shane and Curry's money.


    WINNERS
    Pacers- They added a PF a position of need since O'Neal lost his ways in the NBA. Also, they brought hometown kid back as a great bench option in George Hill. Both of these players might move the Pacers into the second round and a dangerous second round team. Remember if they could of be able to just close games last year in the playoffs might have seen the Pacers in the East Finals and not the Bulls.
    Grizz- The Grizzles didn't do anything in the FA market, or make any moves. That's great news for everyone in Memphis. This team was just a couple minutes away for playing for the NBA Finals, and they did this without their best player Rudy Gay. Was great moves by the front office to resign Marc Gasol and not trade away OJ Mayo.
    Blazers- Brandon Roy on paper may seem like a lose but the kid hadn't done anything for a while now. So with that said, adding the 6th man of the year from two seasons past, a great scorer to replace him was def a plus. And the thing that killed them vs the Mavs in their 4-2 loss in the first round was Miller's inability to keep JJ and Kidd out of the paint, on draft day they fixed that issue by trading for one of Denver's good PGs in Raymond Felton. Blazers are a dark horse for the Finals out West, no one better sleep on this team.
    Hornets- If that pick turns into a top 10 pick they just stole so much from the Clippers franchise! EG can ball, his probably the best young SG in the league, and that top pick could have turned into a PG they needed (Teague out of UK) or a SF they needed (Terrance Jones from UK or Perra Jerry 3 out of Baylor).



    Fence
    Lakers- They might be making the best moves of all if they could move Pau Gasol and Bynum, but not for Howard, just to clear up their cap space on the roster. One scenrio that was broughten up was to trade Gasol to the Timberwolves with the center piece being Love, I'm all for that. Also, should move Bynum to anyone that has one of the worst records come trade deadline for a couple first round picks and expiring contracts. If they do this they will still have the cap space necessary to attract Howard or DWill, and even possibly both, with many young assets on their team.

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    Best:
    Clippers: As if adding the best PG in the league wasn't good enough, they add Mr. Big Shot, add Caron Butler, and keep their two young budding big men. This team has a chance to win the West... This season.
    Knicks: Probably the best front court in the league after acquiring Tyson Chandler. He could make Dirk look serviceable on defense, so imagine what he has the chance to do with and athletic freak like Amare. Baron Davis could possibly turn out to be a very nice signing, and just like that the Knicks are a good amount better than last season.
    Thunder: Just by standing pat, OKC wins in this offseason. Lakers have appeared to shoot themselves in the foot; Dallas is still scary and made some nice pickups, but losing Chandler and Barea hurts; SA is another year older; Portland is once again decimated by injuries. There's a power shift in the West, with OKC leading the charge, followed by Memphis and LAC.

    Losers:
    Lakers: Lost Odom, lost Shannon Brown, almost traded Pau and thus possibly compromised the team's chemistry. Bynum is still injury probe, and suspended for the first five games. Trade for CP3 was vetoed. No PG, no SF, and no depth. This team is hanging on by a thread after an atrocious offseason.
    Celtics: Rumors of trading Rondo, Green going down with a heart condition, and a rapidly aging roster. They've still got the big 4 intact and that automatically puts then in contention talks, but there wasn't much to get excited for this offseason if you're a Celtic fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjmoffatt View Post
    Worst:
    Mavs- Chandler brought them toughness that they never had in the paint and on the boards, sure you got Odom but he won't battle down there, now you basically have the same player that'll be on the floor with Odom and Dirk. Losing JJ was a big hit too because he was always able to get in the paint and set up the Jet and other knock down shooters, or just get the opposing teams big men in foul trouble, Vince Carter was a very bad pick up.
    Heat- Might be good but has the potential to be very bad! I think their thought process was to sign both Shane Battey and Curry as tough defenders. But when will Shane touch the floor? Are they going to put Lebron at point and bring him off the bench to play the 3, if so they might be putting Lebron in foul trouble, and we really haven't seen much of him as a on ball defender against one of these quicker PGs they might see in the playoffs like Holliday, Collison, and Rose. Curry also, is just a chump, that was a waste of money by the Heat, would have much rather seen them go after JJ with both Shane and Curry's money.


    WINNERS
    Pacers- They added a PF a position of need since O'Neal lost his ways in the NBA. Also, they brought hometown kid back as a great bench option in George Hill. Both of these players might move the Pacers into the second round and a dangerous second round team. Remember if they could of be able to just close games last year in the playoffs might have seen the Pacers in the East Finals and not the Bulls.
    Grizz- The Grizzles didn't do anything in the FA market, or make any moves. That's great news for everyone in Memphis. This team was just a couple minutes away for playing for the NBA Finals, and they did this without their best player Rudy Gay. Was great moves by the front office to resign Marc Gasol and not trade away OJ Mayo.
    Blazers- Brandon Roy on paper may seem like a lose but the kid hadn't done anything for a while now. So with that said, adding the 6th man of the year from two seasons past, a great scorer to replace him was def a plus. And the thing that killed them vs the Mavs in their 4-2 loss in the first round was Miller's inability to keep JJ and Kidd out of the paint, on draft day they fixed that issue by trading for one of Denver's good PGs in Raymond Felton. Blazers are a dark horse for the Finals out West, no one better sleep on this team.
    Hornets- If that pick turns into a top 10 pick they just stole so much from the Clippers franchise! EG can ball, his probably the best young SG in the league, and that top pick could have turned into a PG they needed (Teague out of UK) or a SF they needed (Terrance Jones from UK or Perra Jerry 3 out of Baylor).



    Fence
    Lakers- They might be making the best moves of all if they could move Pau Gasol and Bynum, but not for Howard, just to clear up their cap space on the roster. One scenrio that was broughten up was to trade Gasol to the Timberwolves with the center piece being Love, I'm all for that. Also, should move Bynum to anyone that has one of the worst records come trade deadline for a couple first round picks and expiring contracts. If they do this they will still have the cap space necessary to attract Howard or DWill, and even possibly both, with many young assets on their team.
    This.

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    Knicks, Hornets, Clippers, Pacers, and Wolves had great offseasons

    Lakers, Mavs, Celtics, and Warriors had a bad offseason.

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