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    NBA ReDraft: 3) Syracuse Prairie Stars v. 6) Tampa Bay

    Hello Everyone,

    Welcome to the playoff voting for the PSD NBA Redraft. Every year we basketball fans enjoy taking part in a PSD game called the NBA redraft where over 60 users participate. The point of the redraft is to draft the best team possible and the obvious goal is to be crowned champion by the NBA forum. You will notice that the team name do not represent current NBA teams. The reason why we avoided this is because we wanted to avoid a bias that exists with current team names. For example, a team that had the Chicago Bulls team name would probably experience a higher volume of votes than let’s say the Memphis Grizzlies team simply because they have the larger fan base on PSD. As a result we got rid of that bias completely. Please take the time to review both teams, look at the depth chart and read the write ups to formalize your own opinion on which team would win a 7 game series. As far as injuries go, they will not be playing a factor in this Redraft though players that are continually hurt and have not had a healthy season in quite some time should be viewed as different players than what they once were (Yao, Oden, Roy etc). Thank you for voting and enjoy the match ups.


    3) Syracuse v. 6) Tampa Bay


    Syracuse has Home Court Advantage

    Syracuse Clubhouse
    Tampa Bay Clubhouse

    Syracuse Depth Chart
    PG: Mike Conley/Chris Duhon/Sebastian Telfair
    SG: Kobe Bryant/Ben Uzoh
    SF: Michael Beasley/Kobe Bryant/Peja Stojakovic/Danny Green
    PF: Elton Brand/Ed Davis/Michael Beasley/Ike Diogu
    C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas/Ed Davis

    Tampa Bay Depth Chart
    PG: Andre Miller/ Carlos Arroyo/ A.J. Price
    SG: Shane Battier/ Billy Walker
    SF: Paul "The Truth" Pierce/ Francisco Garcia/ Renaldo Balkman
    PF: Kenyon Martin /Brian Cook/ Solomon Jones
    C: Al Jefferson/ Mehmet Okur

    Syracuse Write Up

    Here at Syracuse, we intended to build a team that knows how to win. We feel we have just the right amount of veteran presence to go along with our young talent. We also have a spectacular blend of superstars and role players. Allow me to explain further.

    Of course the first thing about this team that pops out at you is “OMGZ Kobe+Shaq!!1!”. Well we are here to tell you that Syracuse is much more than that.

    - We have two very potent scorers in to help Kobe light up the scoreboard. Beasley is averaging over 19 PPG as well as over 5 RPG. Brand has been beastin’ this year with 15+ PPG and 8+ RPG. After a few unhealthy years, Brand is playing at the level that NBA fans have come to expect (career 21.6 PER).

    - Shaq is at the point in his career where he understands that he is a role player and his ego should not clash with Kobe. Shaq is still performing at a high level when given the right amount of minutes (as evidenced by his 17.2 PER and his obscene .655 TS% this season)

    - Kobe is averaging roughly 25, 5 and 5 so there is no reason to believe he has lost a step.

    - Conley rounds out Syracuse’s starting 5, and is playing his best basketball this season. His 14 PPG and 6.6 APG are career highs.

    - Syracuse entire starting 5 plays above average defense.

    We at Syracuse feel that we have the most talented starting 5 in the entire redraft.

    Our Bench has multiple players that can step in and provide a spark.

    - Zydrunas Ilgauskas is an experienced veteran that can stretch the floor
    - Both Duhon and Telfair are capable backups at PG that have experience as starters and have proven they can run an offense.
    - Ed Davis has been extremely efficient (.612 eFG%) and also provides a very strong defensive presence in the front court.
    - Peja Stojakovic is an elite 3 point Specialist that shoots .400% from beyond the arc for his career.


    Tampa has a nice a team. However, they have some severe flaws. First and foremost, positioning. Jefferson and Battier are playing out of position. Ask anyone who has seen Battier play this year, and they’ll laugh at you if you ask if he can still guard a shooting, let alone Kobe. I asked JordansBulls, a Rockets fan, how he’d sum up Battier’s ability to guard shooting guards, and he said that he played defense at the same level of a John Salmons. Battier is older, and his 6-8 frame just can’t keep up with shooting guards anymore. Simply put, he doesn’t guard shooting guards any more, let alone Kobe Bryant.

    Tampa Bays two best players, Paul Pierce and Al Jefferson have actually played together before! As Boston Celtics, duo amounted to nothing, and I see no reason why it will work this time around.

    Kenyon Martin has not been a serviceable starter since 2005 and injuries have all but derailed his career. He’s a good defender, but offensively, he’s well below average, much like Battier, who is nothing more than a spot up shooter.

    When it comes to Tampa Bay’s bench, they don’t have a single player that could come in and provide serious energy. Their best bench player is Mehmet Okur who has been injured all season and has only played 13 games, none of which he has started (His eFG% is below .400!!!!). Bill Walker has a PER of 10 and is a terrible defender. Since he’s the only true SG they have, is he who guards Kobe? Arroyo and AJ Price can’t find minutes anywhere in this league. Solomon Jones is also a guy with a PER around 10 who just doesn’t produce.

    If you made it this far thank you for giving us your time. We hope you did take your time and make the educated decision here.

    Tampa Bay Write Up
    Rotation:
    PG: Andre Miller (34)/ Carlos Arroyo (14)
    SG: Shane Battier (33)/ Francisco Garcia (10)/ Billy Walker (5)
    SF: Paul "The Truth" Pierce (37)/ Francisco Garcia (11)
    PF: Kenyon Martin (30)/ Brian Cook (10)/ Mehmet Okur (8)
    C: Al Jefferson (36)/ Mehmet Okur (12)

    We’d like to start off by saying that Syracuse has done a great job building a team around Kobe Bryant. However, we believe that we match up very well versus Syracuse and will pull off the first round upset.

    PG Matchup: Andre Miller vs. Mike Conley
    Andre Miller is quietly having a very fine year. He has been scoring at an efficient rate and has recorded 7.2 assists per game this year. He is a very good penetrator and a solid defender. Miller is perfect for this team because he can create well for Al Jefferson and Paul Pierce and can also finish at the rim. He is also an experienced veteran, which definitely helps during the playoffs. In their two head to head matchups this year, Mike Conley has been limited to 13.5 Points per game on a poor 35% shooting, 4 assists per game and 3 TO’s per game. Meanwhile, Andre Miller scored about 17 points per game on 45% shooting, and dished for 9 assists per game. Though Conley is having a fine year, Andre Miller wins this matchup.
    Advantage: Tampa Bay


    SG Matchup: Shane Battier vs. Kobe Bryant
    Kobe Bryant is arguably the best shooting guard in the league. There’s no way of getting around it. However, Shane Battier is notoriously one of the best wing defenders in the league. He is definitely going to give Kobe Bryant a hard time. Kobe will have no “gimme buckets” because Battier is second to none when it comes to playing gritty, hard-nose defense. Though Battier doesn’t have an amazing offensive repertoire, he can hit the three ball at a good rate, so Kobe will not be allowed to slack off him.
    Advantage: Syracuse


    SF Matchup: Paul Pierce vs. Michael Beasley
    Paul Pierce is notoriously a very good scorer and one of the most clutch players in the league. What some don’t know is that he is shooting an incredible FIFTY percent from the field this year and has an immaculate 62% True Shooting Percentage. To top it off, Michael Beasley is a terrible defender. Pierce will have a field day versus Beasley with his wide array of moves as Beasley is no match for Pierce. As for Beasley on the offensive end, he is one of the most inefficient scorers in the league. His true shooting percentage is an atrocious 50% and has a terrible .6 Offensive Win Shares while Pierce has 5.3 Offensive Win Shares, and an amazing 9.2 Total Win Shares, compared to Beasley’s 1.5 Total Win Shares. Let’s not forget that the last time Beasley played with a superstar Shooting Guard, Dwyane Wade, it didn’t work out too well. Beasley was very inefficient and couldn’t get into the flow of the offense. We sense that he would have the same problems on this team. Overall, Paul Pierce will have a HUGE series versus Beasley.
    Advantage: Tampa Bay


    PF Matchup: Kenyon Martin vs. Elton Brand
    Elton Brand is having a solid year after two very disappointing years. He is a solid post presence, but Kenyon Martin is still a very physical defender and will make Brand work for each of his points. Kenyon can still bring the energy as seen from these past few weeks from him in Denver.

    Advantage: Syracuse


    C Matchup: Al Jefferson vs. Shaq
    Al Jefferson has absolutely ERUPTED recently. He is putting up 28 points, 10 boards and 2 blocks over these past ten games. He is proving that he is capable of being a top option on the offensive end, and is improving as a help defender. Shaquille O’Neal is too worn out and old to keep up with Big Al. Shaq can hardly play 20 minutes a game, and is clearly on the decline. He doesn’t have the same offensive moves that he used to, and he isn’t the same defender. Al would have a big series here. Shaq can’t play for more than 21 minutes, and the bigs on Syracuse’s bench would get obliterated by Jefferson. There is no doubt that Jefferson wins this matchup.

    Advantage: Tampa Bay

    Bench:
    Neither team has a particularly strong bench. We have Francisco Garcia, who was playing very well prior to his injury, coming off the bench as the main wing to provide some scoring. Mehmet Okur spreads the floor for us as the primary backup big man, and Carlos Arroyo is capable of managing the game for about 14 minutes with Andre Miller on the bench.

    In the end, Tampa Bay would advance to the second round. Paul Pierce and Al Jefferson would have a field day in this matchup versus Beasley and Shaq. Battier would give Kobe a very hard time, and Kenyon would provide physical, hard-nose defense versus Brand. Andre Miller would do a great job running the show, and in the clutch, we have The Truth, Paul Pierce.

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    This is a very good Matchup. I think the front court of Syracuse is waaaay too old to handle Tampas team. Hard to Vote against my Boy Mamba but I'm a realist.

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    Tampa Bays two best players, Paul Pierce and Al Jefferson have actually played together before! As Boston Celtics, duo amounted to nothing, and I see no reason why it will work this time around.
    C'mon that was early in Al's career. He was nowhere near the player that he is now. He has improved in every facet of the game. And we have a much better PG running the show in Andre Miller than the C's had.

    BTW, we have Garcia on our bench as the main wing who you conveniently left off in your bench segment.

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    I have asked the mods to sticky the redraft threads. I hope it gets done soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    This is a very good Matchup. I think the front court of Syracuse is waaaay too old to handle Tampas team. Hard to Vote against my Boy Mamba but I'm a realist.
    Jefferson is their only low scoring threat really...but Syracuse has a bunch of defenders to throw at him. I really don't think they'd do too well down low. Syracuse may be older down low, but all those guys play great defense. Brand, Shaq, Z and Davis all are big bodies that can block shots and rebound.

    Tampa's age in the back court is a bigger issue. They literally have no one to stop Kobe. Battier can't guard smaller shooting guards any more at his age. His 6-8 frame just can't keep up any more. He strictly guards SFs...and even so, we need to stop grouping him in with the shut down defenders. If you've seen him play this year, you'd know he's not the same. He hasn't been matched up on a shooting guard all year. Ask any Rocket/Grizz fan about that. Who else do they have that can guard him? Miller can keep Conley in front of him, and is much older. Pierce is older too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRamForPrez24 View Post
    Jefferson is their only low scoring threat really...but Syracuse has a bunch of defenders to throw at him. I really don't think they'd do too well down low. Syracuse may be older down low, but all those guys play great defense. Brand, Shaq, Z and Davis all are big bodies that can block shots and rebound.

    Tampa's age in the back court is a bigger issue. They literally have no one to stop Kobe. Battier can't guard smaller shooting guards any more at his age. His 6-8 frame just can't keep up any more. He strictly guards SFs...and even so, we need to stop grouping him in with the shut down defenders. If you've seen him play this year, you'd know he's not the same. He hasn't been matched up on a shooting guard all year. Ask any Rocket/Grizz fan about that. Who else do they have that can guard him? Miller can keep Conley in front of him, and is much older. Pierce is older too.
    I agree with most you said and almost would side with you but I still think and it's very hard for me to pick against Kobe. Martin would just shut down Brand, Beasley isn't stopping Pierce and Diesel and Z at their respective age are not slowing down a smaller, Younger Jefferson. I do think it would be a close series but taking into account that they're playing a 48min 7 game series, I just don't see how Z and Shaq can last 48 min split amongst them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    I agree with most you said and almost would side with you but I still think and it's very hard for me to pick against Kobe. Martin would just shut down Brand, Beasley isn't stopping Pierce and Diesel and Z at their respective age are not slowing down a smaller, Younger Jefferson. I do think it would be a close series but taking into account that they're playing a 48min 7 game series, I just don't see how Z and Shaq can last 48 min split amongst them.
    PF: Elton Brand/Ed Davis/Michael Beasley/Ike Diogu
    C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas/Ed Davis

    That's a whole carousel of bigs that would constantly have fresh legs. I don't think Shaq or Z would have to play more than 20 minutes a piece. Also, Beasley is a much better defender than he's being given credit for. Last season he had 3.8 DWS and a 103 DRTG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F*(&"Next Year" View Post
    PF: Elton Brand/Ed Davis/Michael Beasley/Ike Diogu
    C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas/Ed Davis

    That's a whole carousel of bigs that would constantly have fresh legs. I don't think Shaq or Z would have to play more than 20 minutes a piece. Also, Beasley is a much better defender than he's being given credit for. Last season he had 3.8 DWS and a 103 DRTG.
    I don't like to use DRTG because I think it's a team stat, but his DRTG this year is a terrible 112. He was playing on a very good defensive team in the Miami Heat which contributed to his solid DRTG. Everyone on that team had a good DRTG.

    And this year, do you see his win shares anywhere near 3.8?? Nope. He has .6 DWS this year.

    Granted that him being on a bad team has something to do with his poor defensive stats, his offensive stats are inflated because he can take all the shots he wants. Beasley gets his points by shooting in volumes. He's not efficient whatsoever, and wouldn't be a good fit on your team because he would be a third option. For a third option, efficiency is extremely important because he won't get the mass shots that he is able to take in Minny.

    In Miami, when he was asked to be a second option, he was not efficient whatsoever. He had a 50% TS% as a second option which is terrible. As a third option, he'll get less opportunities, and since he won't be getting a lot of shots, he won't be too effective.

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    Another key point is that Kobe would most likely guard Pierce quite a bit as Battier would require less attention. Pierce is more of a SG than Battier is. If Beasley had to guard Battier he wouldn't have much of a problem.

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    I like Tampa in this battle of the geezer squads.

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    Toughest match up in my opinion to call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile High Champ View Post
    Toughest match up in my opinion to call.
    Agreed. This is by far the longest I've ever had to go without having my vote ready after the writeup.

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    I like Tampa's defense, the fact they can switch Pierce and Battier on Kobe is a great thing to have. I think Martin's rough post defense will help slow down Brand and I have no doubt in my mind that Al Jeff can outplay an old Shaq.

    I give it to Tampa because I like their defense, but its not by a huge margin.

    Its Over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYtilIdie View Post
    I like Tampa's defense, the fact they can switch Pierce and Battier on Kobe is a great thing to have. I think Martin's rough post defense will help slow down Brand and I have no doubt in my mind that Al Jeff can outplay an old Shaq.

    I give it to Tampa because I like their defense, but its not by a huge margin.
    You make some good points, I really think Al Jefferson would destroy shaq and big Z in a 7 game series. That being said, Syracuse do have a lot of great depth up front.

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