Like us on Facebook


Follow us on Twitter





Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 32
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Miami, FL
    Posts
    15,918

    Question Concern trolling rules?

    PSD has never outlined rules for concern trolling because it is a somtimes difficult thing to distinguish from just a fan with off the wall/stupid ideas & opinions.

    But for the administrators/moderators who don't know what concern trolling is, here is a definition I found online:

    Concern trolling is a form of Internet trolling in which someone enters a discussion with claims that he or she supports the view of the discussion, but has concerns. In fact, the concern troll is opposed to the view of the discussion, and he or she uses concern trolling to sow doubt and dissent in the community of commenters or posters. Although this practice originated on the Internet, it has since spread to the real world as well, with concern trolls popping up in a variety of places from network television to op-ed columns.

    Artful concern trolling involves developing a believable persona as a supporter of a cause who has legitimate concerns. In an example of concern trolling, a group of people might be having a political discussion on a website about a candidate they support. The concern troll would log on and say “I'm concerned that this candidate might not be strong enough to beat the opposition,” or “I'm worried that the candidate's history in the legislature might be a problem in the election.”

    Once a concern troll has sowed dissent or discord, often he or she can sit back and let the other commenters do the rest of the work. When a concern troll has done the job correctly, the discussion will split, factions will emerge, and support for the cause will have eroded. Concern trolling can also be highly distracting, as people band together to oppose the concern troll, rather than discussing serious issues, including valid concerns which should be addressed.
    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-concern-trolling.htm


    Now anyone who has witnessed a concern troll will immediately know what I am talking about, and understands how annoying they can be. I have reported users concern trolling and have been told by moderators that there was nothing that could be done but put them on the ignore list.

    The most important thing is that first the moderating team understand what a concern troll is, until you understand how they operate you guys cannot set rules against them. But for those moderaters that know what I am talking about... why isn't there a rule against them?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    9,015
    Honestly? Because it's not a huge issue. If someone is consistently monopolizing the conversation, more often than not they will be dealt with in some manner. The best thing to do is just ignore it.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    1,304
    Well, the same problem still stands as to how you can identify these concern trollers from pessimistic fans? Of course there are tells (like a recent join date followed by relentless negativity), but even then people can not definitively point someone out as a (concern)troll.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    37,904
    example? I'm not sure I really follow

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    29,977
    That is not a big deal at all. From what I got out of it, it's basically someone who says they agree with the topic but has some concerns with it? Which leaves other posters debating his side or not?

    Unless they reply with insults and/or baiting it really isn't much of a concern in my opinion.

    Or maybe I'm just not understanding.


    Free As Seagull.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    23,929
    I like the idea that you brought up, but I am worried that it will lead to the banning of people who are truly innocent of any trolling.



  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    49,328
    Quote Originally Posted by nymetsrule View Post
    I like the idea that you brought up, but I am worried that it will lead to the banning of people who are truly innocent of any trolling.





    Yeah, I think you're right. Innocent people could be expressing their legitimate concerns, and they could be taken for "trolls!"

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    1,304
    Quote Originally Posted by carson005 View Post
    example? I'm not sure I really follow
    I think he means people who pretend to be fans of other teams and just stir up hot garbage in that forum.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Bethlehem
    Posts
    40,796
    Quote Originally Posted by Canterbury View Post
    I think he means people who pretend to be fans of other teams and just stir up hot garbage in that forum.
    Pretty much. I have seen it first hand and it is annoying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of Blades View Post
    I don't consider Brand New indie. I consider them ****ing awesome and don't belong to a genre.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    39,216
    Quote Originally Posted by Canterbury View Post
    I think he means people who pretend to be fans of other teams and just stir up hot garbage in that forum.
    That is a very real and legit concern. Does a poster have a right to troll, disrupt, and provoke a whole teams board consistently just because he claims he is a fan or was a fan at one time?
    I'm always happy to discuss anything from hoops, to hockey, to reality TV with anyone that is polite regardless of their opinion. With that said if you are disrespectful, dishonest, or an extremist type poster I may not waste my time replying to you.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Malvern, PA
    Posts
    81,315
    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    Pretty much. I have seen it first hand and it is annoying.
    Yep. Last year we had a Mets fan posing as a Philly fan who constantly bashed our team.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Miami, FL
    Posts
    15,918
    Quote Originally Posted by Canterbury View Post
    I think he means people who pretend to be fans of other teams and just stir up hot garbage in that forum.
    Pretty much.

    They use it as a tactic to derail discussion in the forum by constantly (and I really mean constantly) proposing terrible ideas, and claiming concern of other teams being better.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    29,977
    dirkisthebest was a perfect example of this. Got permabanned though.


    Free As Seagull.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    MIAMI
    Posts
    19,638
    Quote Originally Posted by beasted86 View Post
    Pretty much.

    They use it as a tactic to derail discussion in the forum by constantly (and I really mean constantly) proposing terrible ideas, and claiming concern of other teams being better.
    Derrick

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    South Beach
    Posts
    8,767
    *cough* Derrick *cough*
    “Those who hate most fervently must have once loved deeply; those who want to deny the world must have once embraced what they now set on fire.”

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •