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  1. #1
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    Should Coach and GM salarys count against the cap?

    Make it wider of course but count them in too.

    I mean the salary cap i meant to help teams be equally competitive thats what Draft, having to match salarys in trades and all those measures are bout too.

    Well , think of it a Good coach can mean a real upgrade with the same roster example PJ wining it all with basically the same bulls team others had failed or wining it with Shaq and KObe when others had failed.

    So A good coach is a Factor in that competitiviness the league wants to foment.

    Also Having a Good GM can make you stronger via good trades.

    ITs feasable that good coachs and Gms will demmand MORE money than others so they competitive advantage they bring should be taking on account too.


    SO, what do you say , include them in the Salaray Cap?


    Just check , Nets are offering 15 M to Coach K.
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    no way. But there should be a hard cap that everyone plays by imo.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    there shouldn't be a cap period, or players contracts shouldn't be guaranteed.. lack of competitiveness in NY and Chicago for so long is killing the league (they lost 300 million this year alone) and thats the direct result of the bs cap system
    THE GOAT

    Until a player reaches these PA numbers, lets not talk about how good they are.


    The Following PA's are when sample size stabilizes

    50 PA: Swing %
    100 PA: Contact Rate
    150 PA: Strikeout Rate, Line Drive Rate, Pitches/PA
    200 PA: Walk Rate, Groundball Rate, GB/FB
    250 PA: Flyball Rate
    300 PA: Home Run Rate, HR/FB
    500 PA: OBP, SLG, OPS, 1B Rate, Popup Rate
    550 PA: ISO

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    There should be a cap for coaches maybe but seperate from the players(so salaries don't get out of hand) example coach K mgiht get 15 mil from the Nets, salray cap is needed, cus the Lakers will pair LeBron, Kobe, and whoever else they want to. Wow Milwaukee will not be able to re-sign big time players, just like in baseball we do the ebst we can with almost 85-90 million dollar payroll, but the NY teams just offer way more. The only reason why basketball you get the same teams competing is because there's only 12 players on a roster and 1-2 stars can swing a team from being bad to being dominant..I like seeing smaller market teams do well. The only reason in bball that a team doesn't succeed is bad personnel decisions. With no salary cap you can cover up your bad drafting by out spending teams. I like the strategy that you have to make good decisions and your team pays for it when you make dumb decisions. Baseball not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostanzaNumba0 View Post
    there shouldn't be a cap period, or players contracts shouldn't be guaranteed.. lack of competitiveness in NY and Chicago for so long is killing the league (they lost 300 million this year alone) and thats the direct result of the bs cap system
    oo you want the nba to be like baseball where there are unfair amount of talent on big market teams

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    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thescore53 View Post
    oo you want the nba to be like baseball where there are unfair amount of talent on big market teams
    hmm he lives in queens but no way is he a mets fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thescore53 View Post
    oo you want the nba to be like baseball where there are unfair amount of talent on big market teams
    Compare the health of the two leagues and get back to me, and baseballs not the only sport without a salary cap, go check out the European soccer leagues and see how they're doing as well. I'm not saying abolish a cap, I'm saying get rid of the guaranteed contracts like the nfl does. I don't believe that fans should suffer a decade of poor play because of a few boneheaded contracts.. whether you ny haters like it or not, we are the media capital of the world,, it helps any league's health if our teams are competitive whether you like it or not
    THE GOAT

    Until a player reaches these PA numbers, lets not talk about how good they are.


    The Following PA's are when sample size stabilizes

    50 PA: Swing %
    100 PA: Contact Rate
    150 PA: Strikeout Rate, Line Drive Rate, Pitches/PA
    200 PA: Walk Rate, Groundball Rate, GB/FB
    250 PA: Flyball Rate
    300 PA: Home Run Rate, HR/FB
    500 PA: OBP, SLG, OPS, 1B Rate, Popup Rate
    550 PA: ISO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    no way. But there should be a hard cap that everyone plays by imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSpirit1 View Post
    The Knicks were never this bad of a team. They always have been a 48-50 win team stuck in what was a 21-40 team's body.

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    ^ it's the same thing with European soccer teams. The nba has built a system where cities like Orlando and San Antonio can still compete with the big market cities and it's great for the game.

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    but its not great for the game, look at the revenue generated this year, they are hemhoragging money
    THE GOAT

    Until a player reaches these PA numbers, lets not talk about how good they are.


    The Following PA's are when sample size stabilizes

    50 PA: Swing %
    100 PA: Contact Rate
    150 PA: Strikeout Rate, Line Drive Rate, Pitches/PA
    200 PA: Walk Rate, Groundball Rate, GB/FB
    250 PA: Flyball Rate
    300 PA: Home Run Rate, HR/FB
    500 PA: OBP, SLG, OPS, 1B Rate, Popup Rate
    550 PA: ISO

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    No, coaches and GMs should not count against the cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kobe24-TJ19- View Post
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    why?

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    I think there should be a coaching cap that includes the Scouts, Assistant Coaches, and Head Coaches.

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    European club soccer is a far cry from the financial stability found in the MLB. In the EPL alone there are 4 or more teams facing serious enough financial woes to get them relegated from the Premship if their wage spending is not adjusted. Picture a team like the Yankees having to shed 10-20 million in cap per year to be able to continue to play...

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