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    Evaluate Artest, Rasheed, VC, BG and Hedo's Performances so far.

    We've seen enough games to predict how they will affect the team, what are the pro's and cons of each player?


    My take:

    Hedo: Has helped Toronto's offense rotate better, they also seem to have a better chemistry on defense. He is not driving and passing as much as he did in Orlando but I think the team is better with him and would make the play-offs.

    Rasheed: Still unpredictable, seemed bored atimes when your team is not that good and always ready to play a good team. The Celtics style more low post when he's out and seem a lot more jump shots when he's in. They are still solid like the 08 championship team.

    VC: You can't evaluate the magic till Lewis gets back but so far he's been a bad addition. Howard doesn't get the ball as much and the Magic do not move the ball around as much as they did with Hedo and Lewis...the team can catch a break if Lewis could help with Carter's short-comings.

    Artest: We also can't evaluate the Lakers as a team till Gasol gets back...kinda Ironic that I think without Kobe but with Gasol, the Lakers would probably have the same record at this point. Getting back on topic, Artest has been worse than Ariza to the Lakers...he is a better individual player but Kobe and him do not have the same chemistry Kobe and Ariza had. Kobe knows where Ariza is all the time, both at the offensive and at the defensive end. Whenever I watch the Lakers game, it seems that Kobe and Artest are sometimes confused on whom to cover at the defensive end.....I am open to criticism on that point. Ariza knows his role defensively but Artest wants Kobe's role defensively...Kobe knows where Ariza will be on offense but he sometimes lose Artest and thus he end up shooting the ball just like he did when he had Devin George. Players need to understand each other to build a chemistry...


    Ariza: Who could have thought Houston will beat the Lakers at home. He has been Solid along with Battier on the defensive end. They're doing what I thought Kobe and Artest would do on defense. Ariza has been a great addition for Houston although he still is not an offensive treat.

    Gordon: Still a Bull its heart....takes some days off and rack up points on others. I thought he will change and be more consistent but maybe he's too early to judge his inconsistencies. He been a good subtraction for the Bulls.

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    Give us their stats.

    And screw Hedo. We paid him 55 mil for his clutchness and he didn't do **** yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    Give us their stats.

    And screw Hedo. We paid him 55 mil for his clutchness and he didn't do **** yesterday.
    I evaluated impact...not stats. You can do so if you choose.

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    Hedo: 14.5 points, 4.7 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 46.5%, 40% from three
    Sheed: 9.7 points, 3.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 40.8%, 31.3% from three
    Vince: 17.3 points, 3.5 rebounds, 2 assists, 43.7%, 42.1 from three
    Artest: 12.2 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 42.7%, 37.8% from three
    Ariza: 18.4 points, 5.1 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 40.0%, 35.8% from three
    Gordon: 22.4 points, 2.4 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 44.8%, 36.7% from three

    Hedo: assists are down, shots are down. He's shooting a better percentage than he did in Orlando. He hasn't taken over games. There are some ball-handling issues between him and Calderon...especially late in games. Time will tell.

    Sheed: not shooting efficiently, but rarely does. He's been solid off the bench, especially defensively. He's hit some big threes. I think he's provided what they wanted.

    Vince: Too early to tell. Magic aren't healthy. However, he isn't really looking to create for others, and is taking too many threes. He's gotta have a bigger role in the offense, more than just another expensive three point shooter. He's gotta start acting like a play maker, otherwise losing Hedo will hurt.

    Artest: His defense is going to help (not that Ariza was a scrub, he won some games single handedly in the playoffs). His shot selection as usual blows...but he isn't really hurting them on offense. He's fit in well...not sure if taking him over Ariza was the right move still. Some chemistry issues...but when Pau returns we'll know for sure. I'll judge this at the end of the season. Championship or bust.

    Ariza: Been great...for the most part. He's obviously taking more shots than ever, as expected since they have very few offensive scoring options. His FG% is bad...but that will improve over time as he gets more comfortable. Has been a stud defensively. I think it was a good signing for the Rockets...they just wont win tons of games with him as the first or second option.

    Gordon: Injuries make it unfair to judge him so far. I'm not a Gordon fan so I'll quit right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    Give us their stats.

    And screw Hedo. We paid him 55 mil for his clutchness and he didn't do **** yesterday.
    well he was playing while he was hurt so you can't blame him.. but yes, I regret the Raptors signed Hedo for 55m. We should have just tried to re-sign Marion..

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    Hedo- Playing an all around game and shooting well. He helps the raps alot.

    Sheed- His temper and ego will end up costing the Celtics points in the playoffs. Also shoots way to many three's. Magic and cavs have faster bigs that will be able to cover him out there.

    VC- Shooting the ball way to much and only has 2 assits agame. Hurting the magic more then helping. Just like I said he would. He takes the ball out of Howard's, nelson and lewis hands. Ball hog. Whats up with all the 3's? Can't he drive anymore?

    Artest- Not impressed at all. Takes bad shots, misses open layups, Low %. I think they just want his defense in the playoffs.

    Ariz- Doing some real good things there. congrats to him.

    Gordon- Looks real good. Scoring like crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    well he was playing while he was hurt so you can't blame him.. but yes, I regret the Raptors signed Hedo for 55m. We should have just tried to re-sign Marion..
    Lol I was just joking about that part.

    And who cares if it was for 55 mil? We weren't gonna do anything else anyways.

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    I'm surprised Hedo has the best FG% out of all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    Give us their stats.

    And screw Hedo. We paid him 55 mil for his clutchness and he didn't do **** yesterday.
    One game. He tried, and you know what he didn't make it.

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    ariza is the only bright spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy View Post
    Hedo- Playing an all around game and shooting well. He helps the raps alot.

    Sheed- His temper and ego will end up costing the Celtics points in the playoffs. Also shoots way to many three's. Magic and cavs have faster bigs that will be able to cover him out there.

    VC- Shooting the ball way to much and only has 2 assits agame. Hurting the magic more then helping. Just like I said he would. He takes the ball out of Howard's, nelson and lewis hands. Ball hog. Whats up with all the 3's? Can't he drive anymore?

    Artest- Not impressed at all. Takes bad shots, misses open layups, Low %. I think they just want his defense in the playoffs.

    Ariz- Doing some real good things there. congrats to him.

    Gordon- Looks real good. Scoring like crazy.
    Uhh SVG told him to do that, he is not there to fit in. He is there to score for the Magic. We got Jameer and J-Will for passing, and Dwight is still gettin his points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fairandbalanced View Post
    We've seen enough games to predict how they will affect the team, what are the pro's and cons of each player?


    Gordon: Still a Bull its heart....takes some days off and rack up points on others. I thought he will change and be more consistent but maybe he's too early to judge his inconsistencies. He been a good subtraction for the Bulls.
    For the Name "Fairandbalanced" your are exactly the opposite. How is he inconsistent? and take days off? He has played in 10 games and had only 1 bad game. Before Last nights game, BG was averaging 24ppg and shooting about 50%. So far he has been far from inconsistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-baller23 View Post
    Uhh SVG told him to do that, he is not there to fit in. He is there to score for the Magic. We got Jameer and J-Will for passing, and Dwight is still gettin his points.
    He is here to score...I'll give you that. We didn't have a go-to scorer really last year (Hedo kind of was). I don't think he is here to jack up 7 threes a game...not at all. We have plenty of guys who can do that. We don't have enough guys who can attack and create for other guys. He's on pace for a career high in threes per game and career low in assists. I'd like to see each of those level out some. Can't have enough play-makers. Right now, we don't. Vince needs to be that. Shooting almost half your shots from three is not why we brought him here. Hedo could have done that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjt20mik View Post
    One game. He tried, and you know what he didn't make it.
    I'm surprised people don't realize I was joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    I'm surprised people don't realize I was joking.
    Oh. My bad. Dude you know how Raptor fans are with like rationality. I'm just use to people like bashing our team after one game. lol

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