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    Callahan and Zherdev Opt for Arbitration

    Ryan Callahan and Nikolai Zherdev were the two Rangers among 20 players that opted for arbitration Sunday. Callahan was qualified at 660K and Zherdev at $3.25 million.

    Steve Zipay in his blog gives a good explanation as the process leading up to and including arbitration and what is included within the hearing:

    Here's how it works. A player and team can continue to negotiate until the date of a hearing, scheduled between July 20 and Aug. 4. If there's no agreement, the player and team each propose a salary for the upcoming season and argue their cases at a hearing. A third- party arbitrator weighs the arguments and sets the player's salary. Within 48 hours, the team can decline the salary, and the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.

    Among the evidence that can be presented: Statistics in all previous seasons; injuries, illnesses and the number of games played, length of service with the team and in the NHL, the player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure, the player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal". Salaries and performance can be compared to other players, but not an unrestricted free agent who signed a contract. The team's finances and the cap situation are not permitted as evidence.

    The likelihood is that Callahan and the Rangers will reach an accord prior to the hearing. The question is at what price for both him and Brandon Dubinsky? Do we use the three years, $8.7 million deal that Toronto re-signed Mikhail Grabovski as the base line or is the four years, $14 million given by San Jose to Ryan Clowe? Given their tenure, the contract likely given to and agreed to by Cally and Dubie would seem to end up being closer to Grabovski than Clowe, but it behoove the Rangers to be proactive and get something done now because as the unrestricted free agent market dries up, those two players as RFA will look even more attractive than they are now.

    With Zherdev, there are multiple concerns. Firstly, there are rumors that Zherdev is considering jumping to the KHL due to the way his season ended under coach John Tortorella. Torts left Zherdev on the bench more often than not, so it would not be surprising if Zherdev isn't in the team's plans for the upcoming year. That makes the qualifying offer and arbitration a way to protect the team's interests in case they want him back. The determination on if they want him back will likely be driven on who else the team adds this offseason, what happens with Cally and Dubie and the type of award given by the arbitrator. The Rangers will likely focus on the "the player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure" as part of the arb hearing to show how Zherdev's numbers were stagnant last year, though that was likely more due to how he was used by Torts, and that the team made their playoff run without him. With Nik Antropov gone, if the award is between what Clowe got from SJ and what Antropov got annually from Atlanta, look for the Rangers to accept the figure, if much higher, look for the team to walk away.
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    this is to protect from an offer sheet. its not too bad.

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    I really hope we get Zherdev. ALthough it sounds like a longshot now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwright3b5 View Post
    I really hope we get Zherdev. ALthough it sounds like a longshot now
    longshot? with this he's almost a guarantee to be a ranger. the only chance he isnt is if sather doesnt accept the arbitration ruling or he goes to the KHL. both of those are highly unlikely.

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    Now that we have acquired Gaborik I'd be interested in seeing how he would work with Zheredev, it could possibly be an explosive combination or it could be a total dud which seems more likely after watching the way Zheredev played under Tortorella.... Although if Zheredev did go to the khl I wont shed any tears over it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liltedspop View Post
    Now that we have acquired Gaborik I'd be interested in seeing how he would work with Zheredev, it could possibly be an explosive combination or it could be a total dud which seems more likely after watching the way Zheredev played under Tortorella.... Although if Zheredev did go to the khl I wont shed any tears over it!!!!
    Both will probably play Right wing, although Gaborik is a left-handed shot. Not likely to be on the same line, but Gaborik may provide something for Zherdev to aspire to and finally realize his potential.

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    I hope he comes back for one year atleast, I still feel he could turn it around with proper guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan89 View Post
    this is to protect from an offer sheet. its not too bad.
    Is that right? Is it true that once the player agrees to Arbitration (as these 2 have), they are considered signed pending the outcome of the arbitration?

    Because the statement ... "but it behoove the Rangers to be proactive and get something done now because as the unrestricted free agent market dries up, those two players as RFA will look even more attractive than they are now." isn't clear. On one hand it implies that are locked up, then it says the players "will look even more attractive ..." rather then soemthing like would have looked attractive, if it fact they can't negoitate with other teams at this point.

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    Kinda both DP... by them accepting it they're pretty much willing to stay at whatever price is deemed worthy, its out of both parties hands. They don't become a UFA until we (the team) get the price given by the third party (arbitrator) and then we have to decline it. So say Cally has accepted arbitration, he has no say where he goes until the Rangers decline. If the arbitrator says the Rangers must cough up $2.1 and they decline, hes a UFA, if not he has no choice but to play for the Rangers if they accept, because of the fact he elected for arbitration.

    Don't know if thats clear but that's the case.




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    zherdev and gaborik will probably play on the same line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers in 7 View Post
    zherdev and gaborik will probably play on the same line
    Doubtful... they're both RWs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurseThis View Post
    Doubtful... they're both RWs.
    i think one will be moved....ive played high level hockey for a few years now and it is not that difficult to switch from one wing to the other

    props to sfgiants5518

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers in 7 View Post
    i think one will be moved....ive played high level hockey for a few years now and it is not that difficult to switch from one wing to the other
    They'll never click on the same line. They're both puck possession guys who like to lead the rush into the offensive zone. Both of them want the puck on their stick.

    It's the same reason why Zherdev and Gomez never worked out.
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