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  1. Sticky: Say what ??? Whatcha talking about Willis.

    Say what ??? Whatcha talking about Willis.
  2. Sticky: Exactly bro. I wanted several other players. I...

    Exactly bro. I wanted several other players. I wanted Vassell. I really hoped the rumors of Knick interest was a smokescreen. But we got him. I wish him the best and he does have great passing, high...
  3. Sticky: Wait, he did what ?

    Wait, he did what ?
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    Sticky: Drummond for cheap is a low risk move it depends...

    Drummond for cheap is a low risk move it depends on the price. But for cheap he can help. You guys act like the Knicks have all the talent in the world. Drummond has talents that can help. Not a...
  5. Why in the world do you feel I felt attacked? I...

    Why in the world do you feel I felt attacked? I merely asked you a question first. Because by so doing it will illustrate my point. This conventional wisdom that older players like Obi have a higher...
  6. This is a good response because we can all define...

    This is a good response because we can all define our terms and arguments so we all understand each other. Others are saying he will suck. Then a list of upper classman are presented and then the...
  7. Ok, how many under classman do not even get...

    Ok, how many under classman do not even get second contracts once their rookie contracts end? You first. Then compare that with how many seniors? Compare them by percentage. I am more concerned...
  8. Shady is the bar for Obi, that if he does not...

    Shady is the bar for Obi, that if he does not become an all star he is a failed pick. For me a NBA player can be very successful if not an not an all-star. Many of the seniors picked in the lottery...
  9. But you know the NBA has stats for everything....

    But you know the NBA has stats for everything. Their should be data that tracks the progress of draft positions and relative to age.
  10. Bubba I have been clear with my questions. I feel...

    Bubba I have been clear with my questions. I feel your exagerating my positions to fit your responses. I never said as you propose ď there is no difference between draft g a freshman and a senior ď....
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    Sticky: For how much. If he buys in to the team defense...

    For how much. If he buys in to the team defense can't hurt, if it's a inexpensive deal. Then we get a shooter at the wing too. Hey what if he gets Drummond for cheap and a wing, we can make hay in...
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    Sticky: Some folks hated the idea of getting Rose. The...

    Some folks hated the idea of getting Rose. The team has done great getting players on the cheap like Rivers ( high character ) Burkes, and Bulluck for a team expected to be a lottery team, and...
  13. Sticky: Story of his career. I want to like him, I want...

    Story of his career. I want to like him, I want to a great deal. But darn, this is Frank. Too much inconsistency for so little highlights.
  14. Maybe, I don't disagree. But I don't think your...

    Maybe, I don't disagree. But I don't think your likely to draft an all-star anyway young or old. Younger players drafted by far are among the most talented. I don't disagree. Just asserting that the...
  15. That was not my assertion at all.

    That was not my assertion at all.
  16. What about Damian Lilarrd ? Whose spinning...

    What about Damian Lilarrd ? Whose spinning anything. I am asking critical questions. Also being an all-star is not the sole measure. How many of the younger of the younger players are out of the...
  17. The NBA should do a tracking study of the...

    The NBA should do a tracking study of the relative success of players drafted at each age 18, 19, 20 ,21, 22. Then compare the productivity of each age group over the four years of the rookie...
  18. What have you proven in your opinion so far ? I...

    What have you proven in your opinion so far ? I see names. How about a comparison between the lower classman also drafted.
  19. Again I am not staring age is not an issue. I am...

    Again I am not staring age is not an issue. I am talking about production for the time of the contract for the team. You have seen the production Frank and Knox have provided over their contracts so...
  20. [QUOTE=ShadyOne;33851677] What is this a list...

    What is this a list proof of ? Specify for me please.
  21. [QUOTE=ShadyOne;33851574] And how many 18...

    And how many 18 years never make it. I mean people are repeating this and that like fact. But can't provide the receipts. Then when asked to support their arguments they say it's been proven. ...
  22. Not saying age is not an issue. I am a soccer...

    Not saying age is not an issue. I am a soccer lover and in top leagues the best players often get sent up to top teams at 18 or 19. I don't dismiss it. Yet, Soccer vs Baseball for example have...
  23. [QUOTE=ShadyOne;33851514]Yes. Iím not doing it,...

    [QUOTE=ShadyOne;33851514]Yes. Iím not doing it, itís been discussed a lot here. Go look it up lol. There was a definite consensus that the 22 year olds picked in the lottery did not fare well. With...
  24. People repeat things often without any numbers....

    People repeat things often without any numbers. So before asserting that and this let's have numbers. How much more of a difficult time for example does a 22 year old have over a 21 year old or a 20...
  25. Ok but as people repeat that over and over as...

    Ok but as people repeat that over and over as fact are there any do documention of the relative success of the success of 18 vs 19, vs 20 vs 21 vs 22 year olds when they were drafted ?
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