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  1. Thread: Bye bye deGrom

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    I don't see Verlander going to Queens. I have a...

    I don't see Verlander going to Queens. I have a hunch he'll go to the Dodgers on a 2-3 year deal at about $40MM/year.
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    You are right. People that break the law must be...

    You are right. People that break the law must be held accountable for their actions. They are fully responsible for the outcome of their actions.
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    You're right, it does not. Hence my statement...

    You're right, it does not. Hence my statement that her death is entirely her responsibility.
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    All I'm saying is that the guards at the door...

    All I'm saying is that the guards at the door should have remained in place until their relief was there to replace them. You, being in the army, know the general rules.
    I will guard everything...
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    Like I said........ Disingenuous hypocrite.

    Like I said........
    Disingenuous hypocrite.
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    Why then, if you take the word of those who were...

    Why then, if you take the word of those who were "trapped" are you advocating allowing the rioters to have nearly unfettered access to them by allowing the guards to leave the post without being...
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    nate, once again, you would be far better off to...

    nate, once again, you would be far better off to just remain silent. Your narrative has been totally debunked.
    You are a hypocrite -- you care more about your precious narrative than the safety of...
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    Why, if the other officers were so well armed and...

    Why, if the other officers were so well armed and trained, did the 3 officers simply walk away from the door, leaving it sparsely guardes, putting the congressional delegation in danger of being...
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    Obviously, if you are OK with the guards simply...

    Obviously, if you are OK with the guards simply walking away from their post, you don't care about the safety of the congressional delegation that was "trapped" inside the chambers. You are being...
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    I will explain something more to you one time and...

    I will explain something more to you one time and only one time. An area as important as this one must not be left unguarded from the public side, regardless of what you, in your desperation, want...
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    nate, you are just fishing for a chance to redeem...

    nate, you are just fishing for a chance to redeem yourself now. You have lost this "discussion" and need to quit acting like you know what you are talking about. You simply don't have any clue...
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    Were they properly relieved? Was their relief in...

    Were they properly relieved? Was their relief in place prior to them leaving? As to me providing any example of what they should have done, have you seen what police in riot gear did in the riots...
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    nate, that is their job. That is why they were...

    nate, that is their job. That is why they were in riot gear. Do you think they wear it just because it looks cool?
    Sorry nate, but you have lost this one, as you usually do.
    I need not prove...
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    nate, this is what the officers were trained to...

    nate, this is what the officers were trained to do. I guess you couldn't understand that part when I said it before, so I will repeat if in bigger letters and a different color to get your...
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    This is what you are left with after your...

    This is what you are left with after your narrative completely falls apart? I guess its the best you can hope for.
    Yes, they could and should have arrived prior to the 3 guards walking away from...
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    By the way nate, how did the officers in riot...

    By the way nate, how did the officers in riot gear get to the door after Ms Babbitt was shot?
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    Yes. How did the officers walk away from the...

    Yes. How did the officers walk away from the post?
    It's up to the relief officers to find their way to the post. They had riot gear on. They could have easily made it.
    By the way, nice...
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    And by the way nate, just for your edification, I...

    And by the way nate, just for your edification, I have been saying all along that the officers should have waited until their relief was physically in place prior to leaving their post.
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    That is what I'm saying. That is what being...

    That is what I'm saying. That is what being relieved at a post is.
    They simply walked away from their post, allowing what transpired to happen.
    See, I answer questions, directly and so that the...
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    No I was not. I was in the army in the 1970's,...

    No I was not. I was in the army in the 1970's, however. I work directly with law enforcement regularly.
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    When you are relieved at a post, you physically...

    When you are relieved at a post, you physically hand off control of said post to your relief. This was not done here, hence my statement that they simply walked away from their post.
    Again, nothing...
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    What makes you say that? Did you see any serious...

    What makes you say that? Did you see any serious attempts to climb into the window while the guards were in place?
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    What part of the general order don't you...

    What part of the general order don't you understand?
    More of the expected trolling, the only thing you do here.
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    As expected, more trolling.

    As expected, more trolling.
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    You are apparently agreeing with me here. The...

    You are apparently agreeing with me here. The video evidence shows that they waited until the guards walked away from their posts to make their move. The decision to breech the door/window was made...
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