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    Sticky: ehh i dont want to go that far back b/c a team...

    ehh i dont want to go that far back b/c a team with DM probably isn't bad enough to draft RJ or MPJ.

    but with KP & MPJ missing a year we would have had the same pick to get RJ.
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    Randle's career MPG was 28 before he came here,...

    Randle's career MPG was 28 before he came here, and on lotto teams. On a good team I don't think it's crazy to say 20mpg.

    People here said Kanter was a legit starter but we're seeing on a good...
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    Sticky: to think we could legit have had KP, Mitch, RJ,...

    to think we could legit have had KP, Mitch, RJ, THJR & MPJ.

    KP & MPJ's injuries could have made us the 76'ers of tanking.

    That's why I'm tired of playing it safe, go for Ball, getting another...
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    Sticky: yea CJ shoots a ton, Lillard or no Lillard. 20FGA...

    yea CJ shoots a ton, Lillard or no Lillard. 20FGA is a lot, i dont think he's good enough to warrant leading the league in shots or anything like that.
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    Sticky: Same skillset, similar size. CJ at 23 wasn't...

    Same skillset, similar size. CJ at 23 wasn't exactly lighting the league up.

    Beasely was killing it when he got the minutes in MIN.
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    Sticky: beasely at $14m would be a steal. he's a CJ type...

    beasely at $14m would be a steal. he's a CJ type player. $20m might be an overpay but it's a risk worth taking, 23 year olds with his potential don't reach FAgency often.

    there's not much...
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    yup, but like said above, RJ, Ball & Mitch is a...

    yup, but like said above, RJ, Ball & Mitch is a young trio to really get excited about.
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    agreed, and we probably won't be that bad next...

    agreed, and we probably won't be that bad next year. Top 5 protected is fine.
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    Sticky: 2 years ago yes...lol. but STilla basically said...

    2 years ago yes...lol. but STilla basically said Frank's ceiling was a 3 & D player. I think he brings more than that.

    this is silly though, i've been the knicks to get a PG for years, i wanted...
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    Sticky: when the other options are Payton & DSJR...yes...

    when the other options are Payton & DSJR...yes you should start Frank. doesn't mean he's a starting PG in this league. Payton had hte benefit of Frank who had a +4.4 NET rating backing him up, when...
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    Sticky: i really don't recall anyone saying that at all?...

    i really don't recall anyone saying that at all? NOW he is a wing? when was the last time anyone said he was a starting PG? even the biggest Frank supporters like me have said he's not a starting PG...
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    Sticky: Yea Shump could have the occasional lockdown 1 on...

    Yea Shump could have the occasional lockdown 1 on 1, but Frank is a better overall defender, much smarter, better handle, longer & more versatile.

    Not to mention Shump came in at 22 and seemed to...
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    Sticky: Deni + whatever PG falls to use with the Clips...

    Deni + whatever PG falls to use with the Clips pick wouldn't be too bad.
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    Sticky: Smart averages 1.7ppg more PER 36 then Frank,...

    Smart averages 1.7ppg more PER 36 then Frank, let's not act like he's a juggernaut.

    Like I said we can all agree Frank isn't a starting PG. but to say he fell flat on his face is a huge stretch....
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    Sticky: ultimately I think we can all agree Frank...

    ultimately I think we can all agree Frank shouldn't be a full time PG, he can certainly give you minutes there for stretches, but right now he's not aggrssive or quick enough north to south to really...
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    Sticky: he had a very solid run as the starting PG, but...

    he had a very solid run as the starting PG, but we know he's not a starting PG, and he had no backup at PG during alot of that time. Frank isn't a starting PG, let alone a guy that can be the ONLY PG...
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    Sticky: Clips lost hopefully we can jump to #25 or so.

    Clips lost hopefully we can jump to #25 or so.
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    love that Woody is coming back, gotta imagine...

    love that Woody is coming back, gotta imagine Melo will be back too.
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    Sticky: Frank isn't a full time PG, i havent seen anyone...

    Frank isn't a full time PG, i havent seen anyone say he was in maybe 2 years. he didnt even start at PG, Payton did most of the year.

    Putting up VOLUME numbers on bad teams is easier yes, we've...
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    Sticky: OTOH Celtics had great scorers, great coach,...

    OTOH Celtics had great scorers, great coach, great team play... and Smart still shot very poorly. Imagine here in NY?

    We haven't had anything resembling a team in so long. I dont think its a...
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    Sticky: i agree but disagree about the defense. i will...

    i agree but disagree about the defense.

    i will say Frank shot 86% at hte FT line last year, you wont find many if any guys that shoot that well at the FT line that are poor 3pt shooters. he'll get...
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    Sticky: i mean Smart looks angrier...lol. but i wouldn't...

    i mean Smart looks angrier...lol. but i wouldn't say he's more aggressive on D. He's just much more of a trash talking angry looking guy on the court. Enes Kanter was a trash talking angry guy on the...
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    Sticky: ehh Frank is aggressive on D. is there anyone...

    ehh Frank is aggressive on D. is there anyone more aggressive then him on the team?

    Offensively Smart is more aggressive, but with a career shooting line of 37/32/77, maybe he shouldn't be that...
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    Sticky: the only players that can get $41m are players...

    the only players that can get $41m are players like CP3 who are OLD and have a ton of service time, and they can only get that much on the back end of deals. Most 25-27 year old FA's can only get...
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    Sticky: only if OKC salary dumps him but giving up any...

    only if OKC salary dumps him but giving up any assets to pay CP3 $47m in 2 years when he's 37? that would be a real bad first move for Rose.

    Use assets to move up for Ball if anything.
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