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  1. Thread: Jets talk

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    I can name one. Let's peek into the future a...

    I can name one.
    Let's peek into the future a little bit.
    The Jets draft Lawrence and improve quite a bit in 2021, going 4-12. They still have a way below average roster as they had bottomed out at...
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    Knick fans are certainly a unique breed....

    Knick fans are certainly a unique breed.
    Obsessively tinkering around with pathetic starting lineups to see if they can squeeze another win or two out of a team with a twenty win ceiling.

    The NBA...
  3. Thread: Jets talk

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    One of the biggest reasons that the Jets are...

    One of the biggest reasons that the Jets are losers and are a perennial loser franchise is that they take viable assets, devalue the crap out of them and then give them away for nothing.

    All I see...
  4. Thread: Jets talk

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    Definition of Good

    I haven't given up on Darnold.
    It looks like many Jets fans, such as yourself, have.

    We're beating a dead horse here.

    My opinion is that Darnold is a quality QB who has looked bad because he...
  5. Thread: Jets talk

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    If that's the case

    You're saying if we get a half dozen high draft picks for Lawrence we'd be lucky to have one hit.
    If that's the case, then this franchise will be stuck in hell forever, regardless of who is QB....
  6. Thread: Jets talk

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    Whatever

    [QUOTE=MrX27;33724069]You said you are not sold on Darnold, that means it time to move on from him.

    The rest is you trying to caveat fodder.

    Furthermore, you keep saying Lawrence alone....
  7. Thread: Jets talk

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    Selling Out

    Am I absolutely sold on Darnold: No

    Next question:
    Am I absolutely sold on Trevor Lawrence? No

    Meaningful question:
    Do I think the Jets have a better chance of being a winner with Darnold...
  8. Thread: Jets talk

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    Agreed

    Agreed. This makes the most sense to me.
    On top of the two extra firsts and extra third we have over the next two drafts, if we could get a couple of more firsts seconds and thirds, we would have a...
  9. Thread: Jets talk

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    OK Already

    Chances are Lawrence is the better QB
    I haven't given up on Darnold, however.
    So the real question is do I think Lawrence is a better option for the Jets moving forward than Darnold plus several...
  10. Thread: Jets talk

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    The Chargers are 3-8 with Herbert and Herbert has...

    The Chargers are 3-8 with Herbert and Herbert has been a revelation.
    Saying Lawrence will be another Herbert is a pretty high bar.
    Saying Lawrence will be another Burrow is a pretty high bar and...
  11. Thread: Jets talk

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    They could. Or they could do a lot better.

    They could.
    Or they could do a lot better.
  12. Thread: Jets talk

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    Not Unquivocal

    I think Darnold is good enough to win.
    He hasn't proven to me that he isn't.
    We've seen that he has talent altho' I'm starting to worry that he's getting physically beaten up.
    But the next guy...
  13. Thread: Jets talk

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    You'll notice that Peyton Manning had a great...

    You'll notice that Peyton Manning had a great team around him. Same with Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes.
    How do you think those guys would do with what the Jets are trotting out onto the field?...
  14. Thread: Jets talk

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    Let's say it's three firsts and two seconds. How...

    Let's say it's three firsts and two seconds. How is that idiotic? You'll notice that the last three can't miss number 1's aint doing so hot.
    Burrow, because he has a sieve for an offensive line...
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    Makes Sense

    What you say makes sense.

    Do we know if Knicks management is thinking this way?

    The Knicks had Fizdale on a four year deal and he was trying to develop the youngsters.
    Unfortunately, Fizdale...
  16. Thread: Jets talk

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    After watching the Jets today, even Houdini...

    After watching the Jets today, even Houdini couldn't have won as quarterback. You could pencil in 2nd and 9, big pass rush, no one open all day. This team needs a lot of talent, not just one guy.
    ...
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    The Knicks are in a bad position, as usual. 70...

    The Knicks are in a bad position, as usual.

    70 million in cap space is nice but what free agents are we actually talking about?

    Considering this roster they would have to pull off a miracle...
  18. Thread: Jets talk

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    I'm thinking Lawrence would go for two 1's and...

    I'm thinking Lawrence would go for two 1's and two 2's.
    He's supposed to be this generational prospect.
    It would be worth trading him for that type of a haul because we already have a good QB...
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    The Knicks have changed direction so often,...

    The Knicks have changed direction so often, they're just spinning in place.

    Thibs is a quality coach, but doesn't appear to be a good fit for this roster if he doesn't like to play youth.
    If the...
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    Knicks Direction

    The draft and free agency are over

    The Knicks will be a bad team once again

    The free agent pickups were inconsequential and stop gap

    The rookies are promising (altho we say that every year)...
  21. Thread: Jets talk

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    I'd stay with Darnold

    Darnold is talented and has been given the worst possible circumstance in his 3 years with the Jets.
    Zero offensive line, zero weapons, zero coaching.

    If the Jets get the overall number 1, I'd...
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    To The Future

    `Knicks are going nowhere with this roster this year.

    I would start the high ceiling guys and let them sink or swim.

    if they sink, maybe we get Cunningham in the draft

    if they swim, then we...
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    Lawrence should get you a 2021 1st and 2nd and a...

    Lawrence should get you a 2021 1st and 2nd and a 2022 1st and 2nd
    Normally you wouldn't trade a prospect this good, but if you can get the above haul while already having an extra 2021 and 2022 1st...
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    That Tannehill ended up on his feet is good news...

    That Tannehill ended up on his feet is good news for Darnold. After firing Gase, I'd keep Darnold around and try to trade the overall number one pick for a bunch of high draft picks. Darnold has the...
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    Don't Know Gase's Political Views and Don't Care

    Just making the obvious comparison

    By the way, this seems like a political statement to me
    CNN, advocating unemployment, taxing the hard working Americans, support rioting, support socialism,...
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