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    Well they actually do have data on how often...

    Well they actually do have data on how often players are double teamed:
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    In the post below this you called the NBA WWE...

    In the post below this you called the NBA WWE Basketball, and when I asked you to name a single thing about todayís NBA better than the 89ís/90ís you did not. So yes, you think the modern NBA Sucks
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    Actually, they do have stats that measure those...

    Actually, they do have stats that measure those (obviously they are not perfect). I think the problem is you simply donít know how far basketball statistics have come.

    I also disagree on you...
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    Arenít we all the same? Why treat these people...

    Arenít we all the same? Why treat these people differently?

    Just curious.
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    And everyone knows if a school age child gets...

    And everyone knows if a school age child gets Covid itís impossible to transmit that disease to teachers, faculty, parents, grandparents, etc.
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    If you help a little old lady across the street...

    If you help a little old lady across the street but not a young, fit dude across that same street, you donít believe in equality.
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    I just found out from PSK that NYK told him he...

    I just found out from PSK that NYK told him he doesnít even watch basketball anymore. So the guy who preaches about the eye test doesnít even use it :laugh2:
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    Thereís no one stat that is going to definitively...

    Thereís no one stat that is going to definitively state a player is superior to another, the fact you keep harping on that as an excuse to dismiss all statistics and the value they can bring,...
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    I understand your points, because you keep...

    I understand your points, because you keep repeating them:

    Modern basketball sucks
    LeBron isnít that good
    Stats are useless

    All bad points. And itís not a faction of hive minds, we donít all...
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    I do not refuse the eye test. In fact, you have...

    I do not refuse the eye test. In fact, you have already said you donít watch basketball nowadays, so you are actually ignoring the eye test for the very players youíre now saying are inferior.

    And...
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    A picture painted with both stats and the eye...

    A picture painted with both stats and the eye test is going to be more complete than a picture painted with just the eye test.
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    It would be a very NY thing to do: trade away...

    It would be a very NY thing to do: trade away your future for a star that isnít going to win you a title.
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    As a scientists, surely you know the value of...

    As a scientists, surely you know the value of superior production, even if by a little, over a large sample size? Sure in a single game it may not amount to a lot, but over the entirety of LeBron and...
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    I have access to some but not all, but Iíve...

    I have access to some but not all, but Iíve gotten more access over the years (but the better metrics are generally telling us the same things with more accuracy and specificity than earlier ones,...
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    The problem is you assume we are taking an...

    The problem is you assume we are taking an individual stats as gospel, it's using a multitude of them to augment our opinions.

    For instance, if we asked who was a better passer, LeBron or...
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    Sure but youíre saying the problem with stats is...

    Sure but youíre saying the problem with stats is when analyzing things that havenít happened they suffer from the same problem as talking basketball skills: conjecture.
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    The reason I brought it up is because...

    The reason I brought it up is because NYKalltheway thinks Nique is better than Bron. So if analyzing actual basketball skills is so much better than using stats, how can you explain how NYKalltheway...
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    Actually LeBron warps the floor more than Kobe. ...

    Actually LeBron warps the floor more than Kobe.

    Now how does the discussion proceed? I think LeBronís basketball skills worp the floor more than Kobeís, you think the opposite. We cannot use...
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    See? This is what Iím talking about. You guys are...

    See? This is what Iím talking about. You guys are criticizing stats when you know nothing about them. You guys both realize they actually have stats that take into account their statistical...
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    I have also personally never witnessed BigMoves...

    I have also personally never witnessed BigMoves actually talk about basketball. His entire argument for why Kobe is better than LeBron was because a bunch of former players said so. So basically, he...
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    It only says something if youíre of the belief...

    It only says something if youíre of the belief that the stats are massively incorrect.

    And no, I donít think you know the methodology. If you do, please tell me how they calculate Box Creation,...
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    Whiteside is a FA and will likely not be re-signed

    Whiteside is a FA and will likely not be re-signed
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    And you would rather us say one player is better...

    And you would rather us say one player is better than the other and hereís nothing to support that.

    And I would be fine supporting my position without using any numbers whatsoever, because then...
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    Poll: Not only is Elgin Baylor the GOAT, he wasn't even...

    Not only is Elgin Baylor the GOAT, he wasn't even the best player on his own team...
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    Imagine a statistician saying that data cannot...

    Imagine a statistician saying that data cannot help us figure out what skills players are good at or how it affects the game...
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