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    So like I said....

    So like I said....
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    Because so long as it’s defined as a debatable...

    Because so long as it’s defined as a debatable issue by the public, there’s no reason to “fix” it by either side. Politicians are motivated by votes, votes equal power. Politicians know idiots in...
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    You seem to sympathize with the plight of middle...

    You seem to sympathize with the plight of middle eastern terrorists. They are the underdog vs an American govt you severely mistrust, which is fine. However, you tend to believe in every conspiracy...
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    What the strategic thinkers do now creates more...

    What the strategic thinkers do now creates more enemies anyway. I fail to see how a policy which will hold fewer people accountable for the actions of terrorists will create even more enemies.

    I...
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    Why would America need to rule the world? In my...

    Why would America need to rule the world? In my philosophy, America is not involved in the politics of the world and I’d say, our philosophy would be far less “world ruler” than it is now. We don’t...
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    Honestly, I think you have more trust in the...

    Honestly, I think you have more trust in the ideals of terrorists than you do for the people/govt of your own country and that’s sad. While I realize the US is not perfect, specifically in our...
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    The entire point would be for politicians to...

    The entire point would be for politicians to garner favor because gas prices were cheaper. If the Bushes stayed in office, oil companies would continue to receive tax breaks and such. Those are more...
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    Where’s the evidence home grown extremists would...

    Where’s the evidence home grown extremists would increase? Is this just a guess? Fear? What?

    Also, people can become extremists if they choose and any actions taken against Americans would result...
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    If the Iraq war is solely about oil, than why has...

    If the Iraq war is solely about oil, than why has the price of gas basically tripled since the Iraq war began. Wouldn’t the objective be to garner the oil so Americans benefit from cheaper gas...
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    You claim it would create more enemies while...

    You claim it would create more enemies while using faulty logic... let’s follow the logic.

    If we left the Middle East we’d be safer- AGREED

    We’d be safest if we didn’t torture innocent people...
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    Yeah it’s American idiocy that’s the problem. ...

    Yeah it’s American idiocy that’s the problem.

    Typical liberal thinking 2+2=5 instead of 4 and here’s why? ....
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    This happens with our enemies now. They are going...

    This happens with our enemies now. They are going to be our “enemies” anyway and again this would take a major effort by terrorists. There’s only been one true radical Muslim terrorist attack on US...
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    As I said before, I would be fine with supplying...

    As I said before, I would be fine with supplying this philosophy to senseless murderers like school shooters, especially ones who take their own lives. As far as thieves go, I don’t believe thievery...
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    If it’s about oil, why is gas so expensive? It’s...

    If it’s about oil, why is gas so expensive? It’s irrelevant anyway, it shouldn’t be about oil. It should only be about punishment for deeds done to Americans. Again this would be a different...
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    The difference is there should be no commanders...

    The difference is there should be no commanders in Iraq or Afghanistan. And in those events our goals were different in that we were suppose to be policing and “spreading democracy” not torturing,...
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    Because destroying a village or whatever doesn’t...

    Because destroying a village or whatever doesn’t hold the terrorist personally responsible for their actions. Terrorists should die knowing their decision is most likely going to lead to the torture...
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    So than the US would be on the same playing field...

    So than the US would be on the same playing field as terrorists. Right now, we are not. Terrorists are playing a different game than the US. If we are going to engage with terrorists, we do not need...
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    Again, this would be a change is philosophy. We...

    Again, this would be a change is philosophy. We probably agree that our goal should not be to instill any leadership in the Middle East. We should have no say or influence there. Let them handle...
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    Yes. My main goal and everyone’s main goal should...

    Yes. My main goal and everyone’s main goal should be to stop or deter terrorism from any direction. I do not believe any military actions we currently take really accomplish the goal of stopping...
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    In their death, they are not punished. They...

    In their death, they are not punished. They happily die and believe they will receive accolades in death. Obviously I don’t agree but that’s not exactly punishment.

    It’s not via association, it’s...
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    If this was a govt vs govt/ country vs country...

    If this was a govt vs govt/ country vs country debate, the entire Middle East would be a parking lot. Do you honestly believe the US has used their full force in these “wars” in the Middle East?
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    Except the terrorist or even school shooter in...

    Except the terrorist or even school shooter in most scenarios, kill themselves before you can.

    Who was punished for the 9/11 attacks?

    Who was punished for Newtown school shooting?

    Again...
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    It’s called logic, Ewing.

    It’s called logic, Ewing.
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    You are talking about sacrificing citizens based...

    You are talking about sacrificing citizens based on govt choices not individual choices. Terrorists are mostly individuals following the directions of some leader. The equivalent to my philosophy...
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    There’s no double standard. Do you think...

    There’s no double standard. Do you think terrorists already don’t want to kill innocent Americans? My family? Your family? Whoever? The truth is some people already hate Americans for whatever...
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