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    Sticky: Off to a good start. Would be great if we can...

    Off to a good start. Would be great if we can sweep them on their home field.
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    But this isn't LBJ creating these threads and...

    But this isn't LBJ creating these threads and saying he's still the best player in the league and that he's a better scorer than KD. Sure, if LBJ wants to go around bragging about his longevity...
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    Everyone acknowledged it though that it's a great...

    Everyone acknowledged it though that it's a great and unprecedented accomplishment, but these threads about LBJ are celebrating pretty hard. I don't think too many would take umbrage (I certainly...
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    Because we sucked that's why lol

    Because we sucked that's why lol
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    Rightfully so. Winning is what matters. A player...

    Rightfully so. Winning is what matters. A player needs to show that they can win, because it's not difficult for great players to put up great numbers using a style of play that is not conducive to...
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    But that was never the argument nor was it ever...

    But that was never the argument nor was it ever questioned whether LBJ could do it on a good team. The point was that it did not happen (there's a lot of things that are plausible or probable). Could...
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    Teams weren't going at us too hard given that...

    Teams weren't going at us too hard given that they were openly mocking and laughing at us during the games. Those are the conditions under which this season was played, wherein we were a laughing...
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    Well we've seen a younger LBJ do it. This is an...

    Well we've seen a younger LBJ do it. This is an older LBJ who is more injury prone. Nevertheless, I agree that we know he can still play at a high level (and I'm sure if the lakers were good this...
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    That's not how talent is evaluated, but...

    That's not how talent is evaluated, but performance isn't always how talent is evaluated either. Scouts evaluate talent largely on what they think a player is capable of doing, not necessarily on...
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    That assumes that the player's impact isn't...

    That assumes that the player's impact isn't affected by differences in how the opposition plays them, which is what I was referring too. My point was that the impact that a player has is...
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    It's not flawed logic (though you may disagree...

    It's not flawed logic (though you may disagree with my position). I don't believe impact on a game is linear nor that impact on a game can be neatly decomposed into numbers. That's always been a...
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    Yeah, I would definitely say so because it would...

    Yeah, I would definitely say so because it would have occurred under a winning season. When you're on a bad team and you put up big numbers, there's always the question of whether and how those...
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    Yeah, I don't disagree with this. As I've said,...

    Yeah, I don't disagree with this. As I've said, we still recognize elite players even if they're on bad teams. Their play is the most important aspect of course.
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    Well with Curry he had kind of a down season in...

    Well with Curry he had kind of a down season in 2019 and then missed almost all of 2020 so it makes sense people would say he's back. Everyone still recognizes when someone plays at a high level even...
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    Winning factors in as well as it should. It's not...

    Winning factors in as well as it should. It's not the only thing, but it certainly is an important component. You seem to disagree with this, which is very odd but it is what it is.
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    The skills do change. Sometimes guys work harder...

    The skills do change. Sometimes guys work harder in some years than in others or are in a better mindset or defenses adjust and the player doesn't. Look at Westbrook, he used to have a respectable...
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    Those are two different things. The winning or...

    Those are two different things. The winning or lack thereof takes away from his otherwise impressive year. Had he done that and the team had a great season then it would carry a lot more weight. You...
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    You mean next year? No, not really. It would mean...

    You mean next year? No, not really. It would mean that LBJ had the better year in 2023. Who is better for a given doesn't depend on what they do the year before.
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    Neither. It's his play. You can argue that I am...

    Neither. It's his play. You can argue that I am biased, but what about everyone else on here who are LBJ fans? Are they also biased now?
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    LBJ was injured in 2019 when KD was helping to...

    LBJ was injured in 2019 when KD was helping to lead the warriors to the finals. 2020 LBJ was ranked ahead of KD, since KD didn't play. 2021 LBJ missed substantial time and the team was eliminated in...
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    I agree that it's close enough that it can be...

    I agree that it's close enough that it can be argued either way.
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    Not for that year (just like this year KL doesnt...

    Not for that year (just like this year KL doesnt factor into the rankings since he didnt play). That was two years ago though, but KD might have surpassed LBJ around 2017 or 2018 (it was close); 2019...
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    You're ignoring that their numbers have to be...

    You're ignoring that their numbers have to be somewhat comparable. Obviously a player putting up 30 a game isn't typically going to be comparable to a guy putting up 15 a game even if the guy putting...
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    He was in the discussion for top 5. I don't...

    He was in the discussion for top 5. I don't remember at this point whether he was or he wasn't (it was 8 years ago lol) so I don't know if he was top 5 (he might've been though)...however, the wolves...
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    Well I'm not sure Kyrie or Love were ever top 5...

    Well I'm not sure Kyrie or Love were ever top 5 players. AD was but he led his team to the playoffs on multiple occasions.
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