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    Sticky: i would have rather traded Randle & 2 second...

    i would have rather traded Randle & 2 second rounders for someone like SChroeder or Rozier vs signing Rivers and Payton.

    at least those guys are substantial upgrades and young enough to be part of...
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    Sticky: don;t mess with my emotions

    don;t mess with my emotions
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    Sticky: link?

    link?
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    Sticky: i agree. Burks is a Dot replacement, it's fine. ...

    i agree. Burks is a Dot replacement, it's fine.

    Noel is replacing Taj, fine.

    even Spellman provides something unique as a floor spacing big.

    but Payton? And Rivers with Payton, DSJR & Frank...
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    Sticky: Thibs is here to win, it's not crazy to think...

    Thibs is here to win, it's not crazy to think he'll go to Randle more than Obi.
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    Sticky: ultimately I worry about Randle, Payton and Burks...

    ultimately I worry about Randle, Payton and Burks playing over guys like Obi, Knox & Frank b/c they are slightly better NOW.
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    Sticky: pretty much. guys on 1 year deals are usually...

    pretty much.

    guys on 1 year deals are usually out there for themselves.

    And even if Payton is slightly better, more experienced than Frank, he shouldn't be playing over him. Payton is what he...
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    we had nothing when we drafted KP, and he was a...

    we had nothing when we drafted KP, and he was a modern player. not the same at all.
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    Sticky: i disagree, but my point was we could have had a...

    i disagree, but my point was we could have had a much more balanced team.

    Even if Obi becomes an efficient 20ppg guy, he has so much to overcome to be a key piece on a team.
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    Sticky: but Hali with RJ & Frank made sense b/c those two...

    but Hali with RJ & Frank made sense b/c those two guys are ballhandlers too and good passers. Would have been PG by committee with 3 long, athletic, interchangeable guys who can all defend.
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    Sticky: Saric 3/27m, he would have been better at PF. ...

    Saric 3/27m, he would have been better at PF.

    I feel like we got cute. Shoulda drafted a PG and no need for Rivers or Payton

    Mitch
    Saric
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    Hali or Cole
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    Cole Anthony or Hali could easily give us regrets...

    Cole Anthony or Hali could easily give us regrets too. We might have overthunk it. those guys were fine picks at #8
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    Sticky: good i like Spellman.

    good i like Spellman.
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    I dont hate the Rivers signing but Dot made more...

    I dont hate the Rivers signing but Dot made more sense. Low usage, better shooter, better defender, younger & bigger.
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    Sticky: certain moves have been great in a vacuum,...

    certain moves have been great in a vacuum, turning 27 & 38 into 25 & 33... turning $5m in cap into 3 2nd rounders... value signings like Noel, Burks & Rivers who are still relatively young.

    OTOH,...
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    Sticky: Spellman can shoot, he has no place here....

    Spellman can shoot, he has no place here. seriously though I like him but i guess there's no room.
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    Sticky: i dont mind rivers, he's young and decent. But...

    i dont mind rivers, he's young and decent. But why him and Payton? Payton just makes no sense for us, never did.
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    Sticky: Javalee is a 4m expiring, they are not giving a...

    Javalee is a 4m expiring, they are not giving a 1st to unload such little salary.
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    to be fair, Okongwu played a MUCH tougher...

    to be fair, Okongwu played a MUCH tougher conference, and if you compare their freshman years he was much better.
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    over 78% of Obi's FGA were 2's last year, and...

    over 78% of Obi's FGA were 2's last year, and over 85% over his 2 seasons. And of his makes most were dunks, he's in the paint ALOT and thats not good next to Mitch.

    He's going to need to shoot a...
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    it's not final but Mitch is clearly a building...

    it's not final but Mitch is clearly a building block, and Obi next to mitch is far from ideal.

    It's the pattern of what we do.
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    we got Davis too in a trade. I mean that's fine...

    we got Davis too in a trade. I mean that's fine with me b/c we got 2 picks for it. But this loading up on big men is just troubling. We now have Mitch, Noel, Davis, Randle & Obi upfront. that's 5...
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    Collins is a 22/10/2/2 on 58/40/80 shooting....

    Collins is a 22/10/2/2 on 58/40/80 shooting. Those are all star numbers even if he didn't officially make it last year. and I don't think you can expect more from Obi even in a best case scenario.
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    and listen if they think Obi is a star fine, but...

    and listen if they think Obi is a star fine, but even at 25/33 there were PG options and we passed. Why not at least take a chance on someone like Terry or Nico? these are guys that were legitimately...
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    make a list of the top PG's in the league, when...

    make a list of the top PG's in the league, when you get to around 15-20, ask yourse;f, would these guys help us more than John Collins or Bagley? I would say it would be a resounding yes.

    I mean...
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