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    Sticky: oh lord, they are not even remotely close. Jrue...

    oh lord, they are not even remotely close. Jrue is a 20/7/5 guy in this league AND elite defense out of the PG position. FVV is more of a pesky defender but he's nowhere near Jrue's all around game....
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    Sticky: those are two more realistic Wood articles. I...

    those are two more realistic Wood articles. I think the tide has turned against Wood because people starting throwing out "all star" and $20m, even 25m per year for him. But he makes sense for a some...
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    Sticky: https://theathletic.com/1811460/2020/05/15/what-an...

    https://theathletic.com/1811460/2020/05/15/what-analytics-tell-us-about-the-pistons-young-players-and-their-potential/
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    Sticky: https://theathletic.com/1616534/2020/02/19/what-wi...

    https://theathletic.com/1616534/2020/02/19/what-will-re-signing-christian-wood-cost-the-pistons/
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    Sticky: Wood isn't a good defender by any means. He's big...

    Wood isn't a good defender by any means. He's big and athletic but so is Portis, doesn't make you a good defender.

    Wood doesn't rebound or pass particularly well either. He's pretty one...
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    Sticky: Copeland is a good example, guy averaged over...

    Copeland is a good example, guy averaged over 20ppg PER 36 in his 56 games with us. Mind you that was when teams weren't dropping 120ppg left and right.

    Wood was at 22ppg but he just doesn't bring...
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    Sticky: Don't you say you want us to draft Kira? And Cole...

    Don't you say you want us to draft Kira? And Cole is another strong possibility.

    ironically you hate Cole but he projects as a bigger better version of FVV.
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    Sticky: there's no question he'd be a huge upgrade for us...

    there's no question he'd be a huge upgrade for us at PG. I don't think i'm underrating him, but he's not a $20m player and he's not who we should be targeting, especially considering chances are we...
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    Sticky: adding Heild & Ball would be a haul. Heild is a...

    adding Heild & Ball would be a haul. Heild is a good younger vet.

    It could happen if we get lucky enough to draft Ball without giving up assets. Then we could offer SAC, Knox, + a couple of 1st's.
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    Sticky: and FVV by himself is? the guy who averaged 2ppg...

    and FVV by himself is? the guy who averaged 2ppg on 13% shooting last years semi-finals? and 6.7 ppg in 37 career playoff games? He's a good role player who has found a great fit on a great team and...
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    Sticky: since when is Lou Will not a winning player? all...

    since when is Lou Will not a winning player? all the guy does is win...

    listen take the debatables out, even if i give you all of them you still have 20 or so guys clearly better that was my point.
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    Sticky: at the end of the day FVV had a career year, but...

    at the end of the day FVV had a career year, but was still is in the lower tier of PG's, whether you rank him 20 or 25th he shouldn't be paid like a top 10. He's undersized and not as versatile as...
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    Sticky: Mitchell I can give you since he plays a lot of...

    Mitchell I can give you since he plays a lot of off ball even though if he was here he'd def play PG, but Lavine & Murray are absolutely PG's. that's 22 guys on that list. the others like I said are...
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    Sticky: you might disagree with 2 or 3 names but it's not...

    you might disagree with 2 or 3 names but it's not crazy to rank him somewhere between 20-25 at all.
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    Sticky: like who? Not to mention most those guys are much...

    like who? Not to mention most those guys are much more proven, FVV had a career year on a great team and was still inefficient overall. imagine him here on this team. I even forget Jrue also and...
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    Sticky: Curry CP3 DLo Westbrook Trae Kemba Bledsoe...

    Curry
    CP3
    DLo
    Westbrook
    Trae
    Kemba
    Bledsoe
    Kyrie
    Mitchell
    Morant
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    Sticky: he's not, you can easily name 20 better PG's and...

    he's not, you can easily name 20 better PG's and another 5 that are younger with more upside. he's a bit of a system player if you ask me.
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    Sticky: I could def live with Mitch Gallo RJ Frank...

    I could def live with

    Mitch
    Gallo
    RJ
    Frank
    Ball

    next year
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    Sticky: i cant ever think of any team that regretted...

    i cant ever think of any team that regretted trading a late 1st... quality over quantity.
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    Sticky: a couple of late firsts to get the best prospect...

    a couple of late firsts to get the best prospect in the draft at a position of huge need isn't a disaster. fans are putting wayyyy too much stock into late 1st's.

    Ball, RJ & Mitch is a nice young...
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    Sticky: probably the #27, #38 and Knox or a DAL 1st. or a...

    probably the #27, #38 and Knox or a DAL 1st. or a top 10 protected future 1st.
  22. well at least that's an improvement...lol

    well at least that's an improvement...lol
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    Sticky: the only narrative being pushed here is by you...

    the only narrative being pushed here is by you propping up some pretty average player to be some borderline franchise all star type player based off 15 games really.
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    Sticky: oh that's BS, I'm all for advanced stats but...

    oh that's BS, I'm all for advanced stats but there's no stat in the NBA that accurately measures individual defense.

    Never said Love or Bertans were good defenders, but they bring elite skills...
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    Sticky: comparing Gallo's defense to Wood's is absolutely...

    comparing Gallo's defense to Wood's is absolutely absurd. Defense isn't just "who's more athletic". Gallo is a very good defender and knows where to be on defense. where he might lack footspeed he...
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