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How do you know it was a dishonest offer? They had him under contract for a LOT less money. They offered him a huge raise. If it wasn't enough he needs to make that point, instead he agreed...

When he said "we" he meant him and LeBron.

Yeah ... because all "true" Lakers fans think the best thing for the Lakers is allowing LeBron to dictate all their roster and coaching moves. :rolleyes:

Ham and the bottom of the roster happened. Certainly nothing BIG let alone anything big

I had a slight hope that they would stay strong, or at least make the decision for themselves and not for LeBron :)

LeBron and his "agent" have a meeting with the Lakers and they come out talking about changes to the offensive system, and suddenly "word" has it that the Lakers are offering both 1st round picks. ...

IIRC, they lied about the Jrue injury too. Plus The Process. The Sixers are not new to making enemies.

The rise of Bill Simmons made that clear a while back. When ESPN hires people who are openly fans of a team who "report" on what they want rather than what they know. And Brian Windhorst's career...

Everyone wants to win. The problem is you can't really put a score on things like trades immediately, and sometimes ever because humans.

Most trades have something in them for both parties or...

Could be that they have someone in mind.

Maybe Derek Favors on a buyout? Don't know how the Warriors could make that happen though.

He wants to be LeBron

Is it your impression that I said Simmons for Brogdon straight up?

They are gammas.

I did say "would have been" ... as in it didn't happen and it's no longer the best case scenario going forward.

You can't trade star players to teams they don't want to go to, not because of the team trading out but because the destination team doesn't want to send out a bunch of assets and money for a player...

I think the best case scenario would have been trading LeBron and AD for a raft of draft picks and hopefully expiring contracts.

Hehe ... how did Walker become "my boy" by my saying he was a decent bench piece :) I said the same about JTA.

Yeah, Kyrie, LeBron, AD would be top heavy and fragile, and you would want one or 2...

I don't care about KD. I think you might need help though.

I'm not asking him anything. Cleveland had him under contract. They agreed to a new deal, to sign him to the new deal they had to let him out of the new deal first, then he blew them off. Had he...

He's not much of a player, but that's harsh.

I was just responding to the idea that SOME team in the NBA actually wants Westbrook to play him. No contending team is going to want to add him since he doesn't play team ball, and no young...

There is some good music being made today. If you listened to all the music being made when we were kids there was a lot of crap then too.

I don't really think he's a ticket seller though. I hope most fans would rather see more minutes for high draft picks and see a team and system growing and hopefully winning rather than Westbrook...

The one I saw recently was RWB, 27, 29 for Beverley, Bogdanovic, Fournier ... but then they showed that they were not really paying attention because they talked about a lineup of Kyrie, Fournier,...

Have you gone off your meds?