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    Did you read the rest of my post? I doubt someone...

    Did you read the rest of my post? I doubt someone who fought using all their talent and vigor felt morally bankrupt. And it is clear they felt it was a positive for both white and black ppl.
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    You make this too easy. Here is a quote from Bob...

    You make this too easy. Here is a quote from Bob Jones, an evangelist, in South Carolina.

    ďIf we would just listen to the Word of God and not try to overthrow Godís established order, we would...
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    Not at all... I donít care if a poster takes a...

    Not at all... I donít care if a poster takes a shot at me or the forum. But a mod should be better than that...
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    Is this mod-worthy?

    Is this mod-worthy?
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    I hate when facts trump my opinion too...

    I hate when facts trump my opinion too...
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    You think people in that era played the ďwhat ifĒ...

    You think people in that era played the ďwhat ifĒ game? The point that he wasnít black and he felt it was a moral obligation for everyone to keep the races segregated.
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    One of the names most commonly associated with...

    One of the names most commonly associated with segregation is George Wallace. Here is just one of his quotes regarding the topic...

    ď We invite the negro citizens of Alabama to work with us from...
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    No, I mean people in that era felt as though...

    No, I mean people in that era felt as though segregation was morally appropriate. And most felt like racism was moral as well.
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    What? 50 years ago, gay people would stay...

    What?

    50 years ago, gay people would stay hidden. Now they are allowed to be married.

    70 years ago, black people rode on the back of buses, drank from different water fountains, and used...
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    They did it because it was legal and commonplace....

    They did it because it was legal and commonplace. Thereís a difference between morality and legality. Morality is subjective. Itís not objective like something being legal or not. Itís like killing...
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    The morality of slavery was conflicted and yes, ...

    The morality of slavery was conflicted and yes, many felt as though it was morally abhorrent. However, it was legal and without it, many plantations would cease to exist.

    Itís like iPhones. We...
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    Slavery was common place when the founding...

    Slavery was common place when the founding fathers owned slaves as well. Yet we condemn them for it.

    As I said several times, perhaps itís best if we donít judge historical and religious figures...
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    Youíre right. Your description of slavery under...

    Youíre right. Your description of slavery under Muhammad is not what I think of slavery in that I donít believe slavery is some Disneyland alternative to death. Using your logic, slavery in America...
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    Imagine if someone said ďSlaves in America liked...

    Imagine if someone said ďSlaves in America liked being slaves.Ē ...
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    You are not describing slavery. You are...

    You are not describing slavery. You are describing what sounds to be an overpaid butler. Iím also not sure what you mean by hold positions in government. Is this in theory or in practice? It sounds...
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    Furthermore, the main theme of this thread is...

    Furthermore, the main theme of this thread is centered around racism, which obviously has roots dating back to slavery. In addition, these roots have caused the removal and/or destruction of several...
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    In this context, itís not about the religion of...

    In this context, itís not about the religion of Islam. Itís about a historical figure and his involvement in the slave trade.
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    The fundamental difference is Muhammad bought and...

    The fundamental difference is Muhammad bought and SOLD slaves. He was part of the slave trade. To the founding fathers, slaves were just a better version of the slavery that was already taking place...
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    Shelter is a need but your premise would only...

    Shelter is a need but your premise would only make sense if it was the only shelter in town.
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    How can they force someone to pay unreasonably...

    How can they force someone to pay unreasonably high rent? Itís the renters choice to pay the rent.
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    Obviously thatís impossible... but the extreme to...

    Obviously thatís impossible... but the extreme to the other side is probable.
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    Thatís simply not true. Thereís obviously a cap...

    Thatís simply not true. Thereís obviously a cap at which a landlord can charge and expect to have good paying tenants. Thereís no floor for which tenants wonít pay however.

    If you charged a...
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    There is... a landlord sets an asking price. If a...

    There is... a landlord sets an asking price. If a tenant believes itís reasonable, they sign an agreement. If no tenant believes the asking price is reasonable, the landlord will most likely , lower...
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    To help people. Their needs are more important...

    To help people. Their needs are more important than yours, obviously.
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    Thereís two identical apartments owned by two...

    Thereís two identical apartments owned by two different landlords next to each other. You live in apartment A and pay $100 a month. You find out, the person in apartment B pays $2000 a month. Are you...
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