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    Yeah, I never denied that...but LBJ had two stars...

    Yeah, I never denied that...but LBJ had two stars that he hand-picked on two separate occasions and kobe never had that.
  2. Sticky: Yeah, looks stronger too

    Yeah, looks stronger too
  3. Sticky: Man, the vibe before the game is pretty electric

    Man, the vibe before the game is pretty electric
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    Yeah, that's a tough one. We had them beat as it...

    Yeah, that's a tough one. We had them beat as it was. If Odom gets the damn rebound on Nash's miss (although he was pushed in the back and the refs missed it) the game is over. That team was kind of...
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    That's a fair point. If we include the right...

    That's a fair point. If we include the right qualifiers, we can indeed come up with a decent list using advanced analytics. My reservation of course is that they still do produce unreliable outcomes,...
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    But he's talking about kd. Kobe would likely...

    But he's talking about kd. Kobe would likely cheat if they played one on one lol
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    Dude, this is kind of silly. Obviously it depends...

    Dude, this is kind of silly. Obviously it depends on what question they are being asked. Jordan is making a team on the link you sent. If someone is asked "who would you take between players a and...
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    No, within that context he seems to be building a...

    No, within that context he seems to be building a team that would fit well together. That is a much different scenario though under which he picked kobe over lbj. Here MJ actually clearly says that...
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    Actually, I'm wrong about wade. The link you sent...

    Actually, I'm wrong about wade. The link you sent is the most recent, but bosh picking kobe is more recent than the the link you sent. Wade says they're 1 and 2 however you want to put them, so...
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    I think Wade and Bosh's comments came after those...

    I think Wade and Bosh's comments came after those links you posted. At least bosh's comments came after that (I think it was 2016 or 2017 when he said it. Wade's comments might have been around the...
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    I've never heard him say that. Do you have link...

    I've never heard him say that. Do you have link to it? I know he has said that the closest a player has come to being as good as him since he left the game was kobe. But it's not like MJ is the only...
  12. Sticky: Lol that's one way to make himself useful

    Lol that's one way to make himself useful
  13. Sticky: Big game tonight, boys. Hopefully it's our first...

    Big game tonight, boys. Hopefully it's our first W on our way to #17
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    And I don't entirely disagree with that. LBJ is...

    And I don't entirely disagree with that. LBJ is still arguably the most dominant player in the league, but I don't think he's the best anymore.
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    Well MJ is on record more recently picking kobe...

    Well MJ is on record more recently picking kobe over LBJ (you should be aware of that one since it was all over the news, but simply googling it will come up). Wade, bosh and kyrie also take kobe and...
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    yes, but they must be interpreted within the...

    yes, but they must be interpreted within the context. lol no need to rehash the same arguments. numbers are fine so long as we consider their context. That's my position on this matter.
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    Yeah, I've also said that LBJ's legacy isn't...

    Yeah, I've also said that LBJ's legacy isn't done. He's still playing and is still a superstar. He can still build on what he already has. I'm sure that a lot of people from that list who said they...
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    Well that's where we disagree, which makes sense...

    Well that's where we disagree, which makes sense because I pick kobe and you pick LBJ (which is naturally how that would break down given who we are picking).
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    This is the link. I'm able to access it, but I...

    This is the link. I'm able to access it, but I don't know if maybe there is some server settings that keep you from accessing it:
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    Yes, but that's on a superficial level. When we...

    Yes, but that's on a superficial level. When we are picking among all-time greats the debate isn't are they good players? It's who is greater, which requires splitting hairs and factoring in a lot of...
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    Yeah, there's definitely a lot of subjectivity...

    Yeah, there's definitely a lot of subjectivity here (and that's the case in everyone's rankings)...but my main point has been that it's not some indefensible position that Kobe is better than LBJ, a...
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    If we use ONLY ring count and absolutely nothing...

    If we use ONLY ring count and absolutely nothing else. But no one is advocating using ONLY rings. it would be nice if what you were saying were the case, but the lists we get from the advanced metric...
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    Kobe doesn't come out on top every time, simply...

    Kobe doesn't come out on top every time, simply because I have kobe ahead of LBJ and Duncan doesn't mean I think he's the best player of all time. Mind you, there are various people who have kobe...
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    I posted the link on here multiple times. It's a...

    I posted the link on here multiple times. It's a pretty large list. You're free to go through it. Whether you agree with it or not, it does count as evidence in favor of kobe. I'm not saying it's...
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    The major problem with this is that you are...

    The major problem with this is that you are including guys who weren't really superstars. Pippen was not a superstar and Rodman was certainly not a superstar, and again, you're ignoring context...
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