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    Lawrence should get you a 2021 1st and 2nd and a...

    Lawrence should get you a 2021 1st and 2nd and a 2022 1st and 2nd
    Normally you wouldn't trade a prospect this good, but if you can get the above haul while already having an extra 2021 and 2022 1st...
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    That Tannehill ended up on his feet is good news...

    That Tannehill ended up on his feet is good news for Darnold. After firing Gase, I'd keep Darnold around and try to trade the overall number one pick for a bunch of high draft picks. Darnold has the...
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    Don't Know Gase's Political Views and Don't Care

    Just making the obvious comparison

    By the way, this seems like a political statement to me
    CNN, advocating unemployment, taxing the hard working Americans, support rioting, support socialism,...
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    Darnold Trade

    No one is giving up a Number 1 for Darnold. That's just the way these things work.

    Meanwhile, Darnold is still very young and an excellent prospect in the right hands - he's still as good a...
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    Douglas and Gase

    Ilike Douglas, but because of how he got his job, he's behind Gase, as well, at this point. Until this disastrous tie is cut, we'll continue to have to live with this organization behaving like they...
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    !!!

    This could be the worst performance I've ever seen by the Jets. And that's an incredibly low bar to crawl under.

    Our worst fears about Darnold are being realized. The organization has taken an...
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    Jeff Foxworthy says

    You may just be a white basketball player if your name is Duncan but you're not known for your Dunkin'
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    Duncan

    When did Duncan turn white?
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    There's another comment that answers this, but...

    There's another comment that answers this, but you would really have to have all of Europe playing the US because of the population disparities.

    That being said, no question that the black guys in...
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    White Chocolate

    I can't defend White Chocolate. I just liked watching him play - one of my favorite players.

    I can defend Walton. If he didn't get hurt, I don't think it would be close that he was the greatest...
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    Training

    It's not only basketball, it's all sports.
    They take their sports seriously in Europe.
    If you have talent in, say, tennis, or soccer, or basketball, you get placed into acadamies at an early age...
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    Petrovic

    As I recall, I didn't pay much attention to Drazen Petrovic. He had knocked around the league for a while. When he died, I was surprised at all of the accolades and it turns out that his last couple...
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    Let's make a date to meet again on this forum in...

    Let's make a date to meet again on this forum in twenty years when he will have outdone all of these guys statistically by a lot. He's not going to forget how to be a great player. If he gets hurt...
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    If winning is your criteria, then Cousy and Mikan...

    If winning is your criteria, then Cousy and Mikan are your guys. Cousy was on a bunch of the great Celtic championship teams of the Fifties and Sixties. He was their point guard and made the offense...
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    I confess. I didn't go out of my way to watch...

    I confess. I didn't go out of my way to watch Nash much. I saw him early, wasn't impressed, and assumed he was another Stockton and sort of dismissed him in my mind from then on. Sounds like I might...
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    Old Timers

    Cousy was a great innovator and for decades if anyone made a great pass in schoolyards, everybody would say "whoa Cousy". You won't find that just by looking at his stats - what do you base your...
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    Ok

    Maybe I'm a little hard on Nash.
    I tend to lump him with Stockton.
    I kept looking at him as the next John Stockton and left it at that.
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    Doncic a Joke

    My top twenty is based on what I see and have seen.

    You can find all sorts of top 50, top 74, top 100 lists that robotically drone on about career stats, etc. That's their prerogative.

    My...
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    Top 50

    Here's 8 more to give you a top 50:
    Billy Cunningham
    Bobby Jones
    Paul Arizin
    Dolph Schayes
    Bill Sharman
    Alvan Adams
    Neil Johnston
    Blake Griffin (white-ish)
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    White Chocolate

    I understand everybody who can't live with Jason Williams on this list.
    My problem is that I can't leave him off.
    I can sit watching a Jason Williams highlight reel mesmerized for half an hour...
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    Top Twenty White Guys All Time

    Had a thread about this earlier, but now new information with both ESPN and Bleacher Report coming up with all time lists.

    I got a lot of pushback on my top ten white guy list last time - most of...
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    Game Changer

    No one was happy with the Bell deal, except Maccagnan and Bell
    But we're stuck with him and might as well use him.
    He did look sluggish last year, but Gase used him about as poorly as is humanly...
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    Agreed

    What you say makes sense.

    Warford would be a big improvement over who they've got at guard right now. That would be a quality left side of the line in between Becton and McGovern.
    ...
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    Maybe We'll Get Lucky

    I think Douglas is playing the long game.
    He could splurge for guys like Warford, Clowney and Logan Ryan, butI'm sure he feels why trade longer term flexibility for shorter term guys that might get...
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    Chris Johnson's Incompetence

    Chris Johnson's incompetence has had a staggering affect on this franchise.

    Letting Maccagnan ruin last year's offseason and then get rid of him after the damage was done was a monumental setback...
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