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07-28-2021, 01:54 PM
iceman49

i still think the mets best course of action is the cubs
07-28-2021, 01:56 PM
metsbulls1025

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Originally Posted by bklynny67

If the Cubs want JD Davis, we really shouldn't have to give anything else, or at least not much more for a Bryant/Davies trade because of the control JD has.

I'd like that. Try to expand it and include JD and prospects for Bryant, Baez, and Davies. Still wouldn't have to include a top prospect. Doubt anyone's offer beats that for 3 rentals.

Then I'd look to flip Conforto to an AL contender for a rental RP perhaps.

Sounds easy, right?

What could happen next year is we resign Baez, Conforto walks, McNeil moved to RF, and Guillorme plays 3B. The IF defense is improved even more and Guillorme is a very solid cheap option until Baty or Mauricio take over. (Given they are still with the team)

What this also does is not have the Mets worry about defense on the IF and not having a log jam for that DH spot with Cano potentially coming back.

The downside to that happening is Cano is still with the team and we are still left handed heavy.

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07-28-2021, 02:12 PM
Zmaster52

Tbh Luzardo seems like a scrub, I don’t see this as being such a fleece like others suggest.

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07-28-2021, 02:23 PM
iceman49

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Originally Posted by metsbulls1025

What could happen next year is we resign Baez, Conforto walks, McNeil moved to RF, and Guillorme plays 3B. The IF defense is improved even more and Guillorme is a very solid cheap option until Baty or Mauricio take over. (Given they are still with the team)

What this also does is not have the Mets worry about defense on the IF and not having a log jam for that DH spot with Cano potentially coming back.

The downside to that happening is Cano is still with the team and we are still left handed heavy.

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i dont see anyway cano is back next year
07-28-2021, 03:06 PM
mookiewilson

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Originally Posted by olimets02

if we didnt have cano's contract screwing us next year we could eat heyward/donaldson's ****** conctracts and not **** over our farm

Thanks a ton Brodie!!!!

Even if that trade was never made, and Kelenic took the same route and performed in the same way, we'd still be better off. Dunn may have helped us or been a trade chip for someone else.
07-28-2021, 03:24 PM
Zmaster52

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Originally Posted by mookiewilson

Thanks a ton Brodie!!!!

Even if that trade was never made, and Kelenic took the same route and performed in the same way, we'd still be better off. Dunn may have helped us or been a trade chip for someone else.

Not sure how the butterfly effect plays in here but I’m sure this team looks a lot different if Jay Bruce was still playing RF

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07-28-2021, 03:29 PM
wiley6

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Originally Posted by mookiewilson

Thanks a ton Brodie!!!!

Even if that trade was never made, and Kelenic took the same route and performed in the same way, we'd still be better off. Dunn may have helped us or been a trade chip for someone else.

What is point of having Cohen if Cano's remaining money after this year is going to cripple the team's finances?
07-28-2021, 03:34 PM
Zmaster52

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Originally Posted by wiley6

What is point of having Cohen if Cano's remaining money after this year is going to cripple the team's finances?

Agreed. I could see the Mets parting with Cano and eating 100% of his salary either to release or trade him.

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07-28-2021, 04:23 PM
Northeastfshman

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Originally Posted by Zmaster52

Agreed. I could see the Mets parting with Cano and eating 100% of his salary either to release or trade him.

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I think Cano's money had a lot to with this offseason. The luxury tax grows a ton if you are a repeat offender. It's 22.5% of the overage year 1, 30% year 2 and 40% year 3. Cohen knows we had ZERO chance of being under the Luxury Tax with Cano's dead money next year and the year after. Since Cano took PEDs :clap: he doesn't count against the tax. Based on that he tried to stay under it this year to reduce the escaltor.

PS: Please Cano if you are decent human being take them again so you are good and then get suspended for life wiping you off our books!

Thanks! Mets Fans
07-28-2021, 04:34 PM
kyubi256

https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/stat...420324353?s=19

Is this real?
07-28-2021, 04:37 PM
Claymation

I hope so.
07-28-2021, 04:38 PM
Claymation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmaster52

Not sure how the butterfly effect plays in here but I’m sure this team looks a lot different if Jay Bruce was still playing RF

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huh?
07-28-2021, 04:43 PM
Claymation

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Originally Posted by kyubi256

https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/stat...420324353?s=19

Is this real?

Gray is a nice get, but getting Trevor is another Story.
07-28-2021, 04:52 PM
bklynny67

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Originally Posted by kyubi256

https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/stat...420324353?s=19

Is this real?

Any guesses on the return for them? I feel like we still should be able to hold onto our top prospects all the way down to Vientos. Wonder if COL has interest in JD? His bat would play well there with the DH likely here next year.
07-28-2021, 05:01 PM
kyubi256

Jim Bowden means it probably won't happen but if it did... Probably wouldn't cost too much as ya said because chances either resign are slim to none. Although Story would've gotten a QO so that has some value in it for them.
07-28-2021, 05:15 PM
Claymation
07-28-2021, 05:24 PM
Zmaster52

Reports that the Mets talked to the Rangers about Gallo.

Gallo and Story while dumping Conforto would make this team insane.

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07-28-2021, 05:34 PM
kyubi256

Gallo would be odd fit, we need righty IF not lefty OF

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07-28-2021, 06:45 PM
bklynny67

Padres talking with Texas about a deal involving Hosmer and Gallo. Not sure why we wouldn't try to get in on that by offering Dom Smith in a deal for Gallo who is signed through next year. Good power bat, high OBP, GG outfielder. Yes please.
07-28-2021, 06:45 PM
bklynny67

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Originally Posted by Zmaster52

Reports that the Mets talked to the Rangers about Gallo.

Gallo and Story while dumping Conforto would make this team insane.

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OH nice I didn't see the Mets report
07-28-2021, 06:46 PM
bklynny67

Texas wouldn't take Conforto back though. They'd want Dom I would guess, which I would be totally cool with. We could still easily add one of the good rental infielders available that are right handed.
07-28-2021, 07:05 PM
swbwtr

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Originally Posted by bklynny67

Texas wouldn't take Conforto back though. They'd want Dom I would guess, which I would be totally cool with. We could still easily add one of the good rental infielders available that are right handed.

Dom for Gallo would be a good deal, but we still have a need for a reliever and unless Carrasco and deGrom both come back soon, we better get a 5th starter who can stay healthy. Also, not sure what is wrong with Taijuan now, since he has not looked good in 2 straight starts. If he has some sort of injury then we are in deep doodoo.

When Carrasco comes back, he will likely be the opener on the days he starts and they will ramp up his innings as he starts coming back.

And what is up with deGrom? I was just looking at the Syracuse Mets pitching staff. Wow, does that look horrible. 7.96 ERA and 1.92 WHIP over the last 10 games leading to a 3-7 record. The hitting looks ok as their team OPS has been .798 over the same last 10 games.

Needless to say, no help from the Syracuse team. Megill never went to AAA and it is probably a good thing since they all seem to suck there.
07-28-2021, 07:11 PM
bklynny67

Brewers got Escobar from ARI. Are we gonna do anything?
07-28-2021, 07:14 PM
bklynny67

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Originally Posted by swbwtr

Dom for Gallo would be a good deal, but we still have a need for a reliever and unless Carrasco and deGrom both come back soon, we better get a 5th starter who can stay healthy. Also, not sure what is wrong with Taijuan now, since he has not looked good in 2 straight starts. If he has some sort of injury then we are in deep doodoo.

When Carrasco comes back, he will likely be the opener on the days he starts and they will ramp up his innings as he starts coming back.

And what is up with deGrom? I was just looking at the Syracuse Mets pitching staff. Wow, does that look horrible. 7.96 ERA and 1.92 WHIP over the last 10 games leading to a 3-7 record. The hitting looks ok as their team OPS has been .798 over the same last 10 games.

Needless to say, no help from the Syracuse team. Megill never went to AAA and it is probably a good thing since they all seem to suck there.

Walker was on the sticky stuff.

I'd love to swing a deal for Gallo using Dom Smith. Then go for Gray and Story. I can't imagine those deals would cost much in high prospects, especially by sending Texas Dom
07-28-2021, 07:17 PM
bklynny67

Looks like MIL got Escobar without giving any top 30 prospects.

Escobar has very similar numbers as Baez. Man I can't imagine Baez costing much more than what MIL just traded. Hopefully that's the case, but if it is I'm sure there will be a lot of suiters.
07-28-2021, 07:25 PM
iceman49

baez isnt any better then villar or guiolrme
07-28-2021, 07:32 PM
bklynny67

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Originally Posted by iceman49

baez isnt any better then villar or guiolrme

Much better than Guillorme for sure lol
07-28-2021, 07:39 PM
swbwtr

I don't know. Unless we get a player who is a starter and clearly a better WAR value than what we have, I would rather just go after the pitching right now. That is what we need the most.
07-28-2021, 07:48 PM
Larry M

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Originally Posted by swbwtr

I don't know. Unless we get a player who is a starter and clearly a better WAR value than what we have, I would rather just go after the pitching right now. That is what we need the most.

Almost want to punt on the trade deadline and go with what we have.
I see us as a playoff team, but far from a WS contender. Rather keep our pieces and make the overall organization better. Rather get better with Free Agents

Unless it’s a steal of course or something like Conforto for Bryant
07-28-2021, 07:50 PM
bklynny67

No reason the Cubs would trade a rental for a rental.
07-28-2021, 07:55 PM
Larry M

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Originally Posted by bklynny67

No reason the Cubs would trade a rental for a rental.

Well, reality is a 3rd team would be involved
07-28-2021, 07:58 PM
bklynny67

Gallo scratched from lineup tonight...
07-28-2021, 08:01 PM
swbwtr

Gallo is going somewhere. Baez would have the best 2021 WAR value so far of all of our infielders including Alonso. He would also have the third best OPS of our infielders after J.D. and Alonso (meaning Baez is doing much better than Lindor for example). Baez could play ss until Lindor gets back then move to 3b. Keep McNeil at 2b.
07-28-2021, 08:01 PM
bklynny67

Gallo to the Yanks. Oh well.
07-28-2021, 08:08 PM
swbwtr

Makes Davis expendable i suppose but he is the best offensive player we have right now.
07-28-2021, 08:15 PM
metsbulls1025

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Originally Posted by bklynny67

Gallo to the Yanks. Oh well.

Makes Story to the Mets more plausible

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07-28-2021, 08:29 PM
Larry M

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Originally Posted by metsbulls1025

Makes Story to the Mets more plausible

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For a sack of rocks, sure
07-28-2021, 08:29 PM
bklynny67

https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1...178491400?s=19

Highest prospect so far that looks like is in the Gallo deal is Yankees #15 prospect. Doesn't seem right. Interested to see the final players.
07-28-2021, 08:32 PM
kyubi256

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Originally Posted by iceman49

baez isnt any better then villar or guiolrme

Really? I'm impressed that you could say something so brave

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07-28-2021, 08:34 PM
kyubi256

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Originally Posted by swbwtr

I don't know. Unless we get a player who is a starter and clearly a better WAR value than what we have, I would rather just go after the pitching right now. That is what we need the most.

And Baez is that... He should still finish the year with about 4-5 WAR.

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