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At Donaldson's age, I wouldn't trade any of our top 5 prospects for him. If he can be had without our top 5, I'm all for it.

If you ask me they fired Chili Davis too soon. He knew what he was doing.This new hitting coach Quattlebaum or whatever his name isn't doing much of anything. The Mets do have good hitters. What I don't understand is how can the whole team be in such a terrible slump offensively. Something is wrong. Maye it's the batting order? Maybe Lindor should be batting 3rd instead of 2nd.

Lindor should be batting 6th or 7th until he starts hitting

The fact that we're half way through the season and there hasn't been an entire revamp of the lineup is absurd. Clearly what they've got going on now isn't working!

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Originally Posted by erickench

If you ask me they fired Chili Davis too soon. He knew what he was doing.This new hitting coach Quattlebaum or whatever his name isn't doing much of anything. The Mets do have good hitters. What I don't understand is how can the whole team be in such a terrible slump offensively. Something is wrong. Maye it's the batting order? Maybe Lindor should be batting 3rd instead of 2nd.

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I don't believe it's the hitting coach. Or the batting order.

Nor do I think a player's only meeting or Rojas tantrum will "light a fire".

I also don't believe that hitting is contagious.

But I do believe that when a few players start putting together quality ABs, it puts physical and psychological stress on the opposing pitcher, then bullpen, etc. that opens up more opportunities for the next man up.

Right now they're experiencing the opposite. They're letting pitcher's off the hook with alarming regularity, which emboldens them and, by lack of workload, strengthens their pen through the course of a series.

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Originally Posted by The Futurist

I don't believe it's the hitting coach. Or the batting order.

Nor do I think a player's only meeting or Rojas tantrum will "light a fire".

I also don't believe that hitting is contagious.

But I do believe that when a few players start putting together quality ABs, it puts physical and psychological stress on the opposing pitcher, then bullpen, etc. that opens up more opportunities for the next man up.

Right now they're experiencing the opposite. They're letting pitcher's off the hook with alarming regularity, which emboldens them and, by lack of workload, strengthens their pen through the course of a series.

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Well Sandy Alderson believes in this philosophy. They should've hired a hitting coach who also believes in it. This Mets lineup has the potential to be a dynamic offense, but yet it's been in the doldrums for half a season now.

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Originally Posted by erickench

They don't need Donaldson. Villar is the best all around 3rd baseman that they have. They got him on a cheap contract and would be worth bringing back next year. Trade Davis for a pitcher.

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They need a bat or two in this lineup desperately. I don't mind Donaldson but what scares me is his age and the fact that he has 2 more years left on his deal. If he had one more year left, I would be a lot more on board. That said, they should explore trading for him. He's much better than Villar offensively.

I blame it partially on analytics and launch angle approach . My example is Jeff McNeil who at one time could have been considered as a batting champ. He was a terrific line drive and gap hitter. Now all of a sudden he is trying to become a HR hitter which he is not.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

They need a bat or two in this lineup desperately. I don't mind Donaldson but what scares me is his age and the fact that he has 2 more years left on his deal. If he had one more year left, I would be a lot more on board. That said, they should explore trading for him. He's much better than Villar offensively.

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Are you kidding me? Donaldson is 35 years old. He's on the decline. Villar gives them that added base stealing ability. He was once the NL stolen base leader. Maybe he should be the no.2 hitter instead of Lindor.

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Are you kidding me? Donaldson is 35 years old. He's on the decline. Villar gives them that added base stealing ability. He was once the NL stolen base leader. Maybe he should be the no.2 hitter instead of Lindor.

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No I'm not kidding. Dude has a 124 wRC+. That's better than anyone on the team right now. I'm not in love with Donaldson but are you watching something different than everyone else is? They can't score runs. They need help and that's not internally.

You can still give Villar at bats. The way McNeil is playing, you can slide him over to 2nd base.

I seriously think Donaldsons cocky attitude would be good to have in the lineup. We’ve got nothing but timid attitudes up and down the lineup.

Being said, I wouldn’t give up any of the top four for him.


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Originally Posted by metswon69

No I'm not kidding. Dude has a 124 wRC+. That's better than anyone on the team right now. I'm not in love with Donaldson but are you watching something different than everyone else is? They can't score runs. They need help and that's not internally.

You can still give Villar at bats. The way McNeil is playing, you can slide him over to 2nd base.

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Yeah well this new hitting coach has done nothing to solve the problem. The Mets have alot of proven hitters. Chili Davis did wonders for players like JD Davis and Dom Smith. Firing him after 22 games was jumping the gun.

I see two regulars losing their starting jobs to two bench players, who were starters on other teams. I see Davis being traded for pitching help and Villar taking his place. And I see Conforto being allowed to walk as a free agent next year because of the terrible season he's having. 2 HRS so far!!! I say Pillar replaces him.

If your idea is to replace Conforto with Pillar then that’s just awful.


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Originally Posted by Sick Of It All

If your idea is to replace Conforto with Pillar then that’s just awful.


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Oh it won't be my idea. Pillar has an option for 2022. I do not think Met management is gonna offer Conforto a long term megabuck contract with the kind of year he's having.