NBA Playoffs Series Thread (1) Sixers vs (5) Hawks Atlanta wins 4-3

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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

nope... its good until joel dies basically. We can still trade ben/thyb/maxey and we have a ton of firsts and 2nds as well as shake/bball paul... the amount of assets we have is pretty nuts. Even with ben sucking in the playoffs his value is still high around the league.

Ben and Thyb are huge assets and maxey is a name that people willw ant because of his skill set. We own all of our firsts/2nds and other teams 2nds etc. Basically if a superstar is available this off season no title contending team could beat our offer

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The process is/was over the night Simmons was drafted. At that point we had a #1 pick and a Top 3 pick, 6 high picks in the next 3 years, tons of caps space, and a bunch of other assets. People don't know that was the intent of the process.

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Originally Posted by LF85

Doc Rivers..

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Most overrated coach of all time. Dude has hung on to his players coat tails. Makes zero in game adjustments. He has been a consistent choke artist in his career.

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Originally Posted by Lil Rhody

So does Tre Young have more post season career points than Ben Simmons yet?

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Lol

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Originally Posted by warfelg

The process is/was over the night Simmons was drafted. At that point we had a #1 pick and a Top 3 pick, 6 high picks in the next 3 years, tons of caps space, and a bunch of other assets. People don't know that was the intent of the process.

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I thought it was to lose embarrassingly. Simmons is a big part of that


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Originally Posted by tp13baby

Most overrated coach of all time. Dude has hung on to his players coat tails. Makes zero in game adjustments. He has been a consistent choke artist in his career.

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He really hasn’t. In both rounds the lead has evaporated with the bench+Harris lineup, yet he keeps using it. Sticks to the same rotations despite the issues. Stuck with Korkmaz to start despite it not really working.

How about this one:
The three man lineup of Hill-Simmons-Embiid is a +18. They’ve only played 10 minutes together the entire series.


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I think Ben’s offensive game has always been embarrassing. Now it’s under a microscope. What we are really seeing is how Joel dependent the Sixers offense is. Harris sucked but he more a stretch 4 and iso guy that gets his. He not a creator. Kork and Curry are gunners not creators. They need a perimeter creator badly.


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Originally Posted by warfelg

I personally didn't.

But do this:
Look up what teams get for -
3x all-stars
2x all-defensive
1x all-NBA
Former ROY
Steals leader

Yes Ben Simmons has his share of issues, but there's so few things as flawless players. Given Ben himself has admitted that the FT struggles are more mental than physical, there's going to be teams that will pay for his talent feeling that getting him into a new city with new surroundings will be part of what kickstarts him.

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how many of those guys cant hit fts/has 0 offensive moves/cant back down players/wont and cant shoot and barrely drive at this point in the half court? Like i said he will get more than people think but my man if you dont think he is yet again ****ing us i dont know what to tell you... I warned everyone about this ****... playoff ben gets destrroyed and i am sick of wasting joel... mother ****er took 4 shots and went 4-14 from the line and has shot from the line the worst ever..................................... THAT IS WITH GUYS LIKE SHAQ lol... wtf man. Gotta let it go now... you and ben stans are the problem. They literally double and triple joel when he isnt even in the paint lol... ben has the best fan seats in the world just standing in the dunker spot praying tobi and joel carry. Ben is killing both brother.

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Originally Posted by warfelg

He really hasn’t. In both rounds the lead has evaporated with the bench+Harris lineup, yet he keeps using it. Sticks to the same rotations despite the issues. Stuck with Korkmaz to start despite it not really working.

How about this one:
The three man lineup of Hill-Simmons-Embiid is a +18. They’ve only played 10 minutes together the entire series.


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How didn’t the starting lineup work? The Sixers were up 20 after one and I they held the big lead to start the 3rd


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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

how many of those guys cant hit fts/has 0 offensive moves/cant back down players/wont and cant shoot and barrely drive at this point in the half court? Like i said he will get more than people think but my man if you dont think he is yet again ****ing us i dont know what to tell you... I warned everyone about this ****... playoff ben gets destrroyed and i am sick of wasting joel... mother ****er took 4 shots and went 4-14 from the line and has shot from the line the worst ever..................................... THAT IS WITH GUYS LIKE SHAQ lol... wtf man. Gotta let it go now... you and ben stans are the problem. They literally double and triple joel when he isnt even in the paint lol... ben has the best fan seats in the world just standing in the dunker spot praying tobi and joel carry. Ben is killing both brother.

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But he is locking Young up


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Originally Posted by ewing

I think Ben’s offensive game has always been embarrassing. Now it’s under a microscope. What we are really seeing is how Joel dependent the Sixers offense is. Harris sucked but he more a stretch 4 and iso guy that gets his. He not a creator. Kork and Curry are gunners not creators. They need a perimeter creator badly.


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the thing is look at it from tobi pov... he is in there with ben and joel and gets ****ed like joel because of ben... ben and joel go to the bench and tobi is left to stagger minutes for those 2 because ben cant play without his glue joel thus tobi has to play with a **** bench unit.... tobi if he had an actual pg that didnt **** spacing would be much better and i am so ****ing happy reddit/everyone is destroying ben... ben after game 4 was on cod 90 minutes after the loss while joel was on the court shooting..... ben before game 5 was chatting up girls on instagram trying to clap cheeks..... this mother ****er doesnt care about basketball and the fanbase that supports this *** hat is the problem... he is gone... Id take cj in a heartbeat

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Originally Posted by ewing

But he is locking Young up


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i am over it man... joel had to call his out in the 2nd half in the win to ****ing be aggressive... ben next game does nothing after a win but says i need to be aggressive.... then this game happens and ben is ****ing ****... 4 ****ing shots 4-14 from the line.... we got the best player on the team forcing him to be aggressive and he was for 1 half... then went back to ben i want girls and gaming ben simmons... over this ****ing ****... lebron he never was. He shouldnt even be in basketball man... when have we ever seen a basketball player in the last 21 years refuse to shoot at all lol... ****

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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

i am over it man... joel had to call his out in the 2nd half in the win to ****ing be aggressive... ben next game does nothing after a win but says i need to be aggressive.... then this game happens and ben is ****ing ****... 4 ****ing shots 4-14 from the line.... we got the best player on the team forcing him to be aggressive and he was for 1 half... then went back to ben i want girls and gaming ben simmons... over this ****ing ****... lebron he never was. He shouldnt even be in basketball man... when have we ever seen a basketball player in the last 21 years refuse to shoot at all lol... ****

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I know I’m a hater but part of the reason is the Stans. A lot of people decided before he played a game that he was going to be great and now they can’t go back on it. Draft coverage makes some fans annoying. He’s been terrible. People can’t admit it.


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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

how many of those guys cant hit fts/has 0 offensive moves/cant back down players/wont and cant shoot and barrely drive at this point in the half court? Like i said he will get more than people think but my man if you dont think he is yet again ****ing us i dont know what to tell you... I warned everyone about this ****... playoff ben gets destrroyed and i am sick of wasting joel... mother ****er took 4 shots and went 4-14 from the line and has shot from the line the worst ever..................................... THAT IS WITH GUYS LIKE SHAQ lol... wtf man. Gotta let it go now... you and ben stans are the problem. They literally double and triple joel when he isnt even in the paint lol... ben has the best fan seats in the world just standing in the dunker spot praying tobi and joel carry. Ben is killing both brother.

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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

the thing is look at it from tobi pov... he is in there with ben and joel and gets ****ed like joel because of ben... ben and joel go to the bench and tobi is left to stagger minutes for those 2 because ben cant play without his glue joel thus tobi has to play with a **** bench unit.... tobi if he had an actual pg that didnt **** spacing would be much better and i am so ****ing happy reddit/everyone is destroying ben... ben after game 4 was on cod 90 minutes after the loss while joel was on the court shooting..... ben before game 5 was chatting up girls on instagram trying to clap cheeks..... this mother ****er doesnt care about basketball and the fanbase that supports this *** hat is the problem... he is gone... Id take cj in a heartbeat

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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

i am over it man... joel had to call his out in the 2nd half in the win to ****ing be aggressive... ben next game does nothing after a win but says i need to be aggressive.... then this game happens and ben is ****ing ****... 4 ****ing shots 4-14 from the line.... we got the best player on the team forcing him to be aggressive and he was for 1 half... then went back to ben i want girls and gaming ben simmons... over this ****ing ****... lebron he never was. He shouldnt even be in basketball man... when have we ever seen a basketball player in the last 21 years refuse to shoot at all lol... ****

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Take a damn breath bro. You emotions on players swing way too much to have a clear picture of what they would be worth.

Also Tobias's WORST minutes come WITHOUT Ben or Joel. So yea, he's got his own issue independent of this ****.

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Originally Posted by warfelg

Take a damn breath bro. You emotions on players swing way too much to have a clear picture of what they would be worth.

Also Tobias's WORST minutes come WITHOUT Ben or Joel. So yea, he's got his own issue independent of this ****.

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so wait now we going by plus/minus per game LMFAO... its not a breath my dude its your homer *** trying to justify bens simmons **** play... Tobi like joel is constantly ****ed by ben DOING NOTHING IN THE HALF COURT... Imagine being a top midrange player with ben i will spectate from the dunkers spot simmons as your on court trio only to watch joel and ben exit to the bench and tobi be force to play with the bench that you **** on for doc leaving in to long.... so tell me what is it now? you **** on doc for leaving in the **** bench but throw tobi under the bus for having a bad game but not realizing he is ****ing forced to play with ben and the 4-5 on offense only for him and joel to sit and tobi to play with that **** bench that you scream is left in for to long? come on man take your head out of your *** now.....

get this ****ing dude out of here. How many times you wanna see us get knocked out of the 2nd round because he cant shoot/drive/score/back down/do anything on offense and now cant hit wait for it......... 50 pct from the damn ft line? HE IS SHOOTING 33 PCT FROM THE LNE ON 60 PLUS SHOTS........................................... he is the worst ft shooter of all time in the playoffs lol... I warned you bro.. this is ben. Playoff ben.

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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

sorry war... after this ben has to go... imagine playing hack a player in 2021 and it being a PG and it costing us a series. Ben simmons is the most overrated player in the nba

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Also I want to come back to this one:

I said this after last offseason. I've always put Ben as the one in most of my trade and movement scenarios. I'm really getting ****ing sick of this **** where you and others attack me because I say what even you admit, GM's in the NBA still value Ben high enough that we're going to get a good return. For some ****ing reason it makes me a stan? ****k off with this ****. Just because I bother to read and understand enough to know that GM's have generally said they still think Ben is a good player and it's the pairing of on court skill sets that's bad, and others want to go off their damn emotions.

Seriously people need to bother to ****ing read what I right or stop ****ing quoting me and bringing me up and claiming I'm saying something ****ing else.

So one last time, for the 3RD ****ING OFFSEASON IN A ****ING ROW Ben should be traded, he's the easier to trade one, he's the one that will be easier for another team to build around, and at the same time we will receive more than what PSD posters think he's worth.