Updated mock for NFL Draft

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Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez

Pitts has all of the measurables as a guy like Mike Evans.

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The problem is be doesn’t play WR, he plays TE. Also Mike Evans doesn’t have trouble getting off the line of scrimmage.


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Originally Posted by Tg11

If the Eagles were smart they would draft either Rashawn or Penei with their pick at 6 to shore up the defense

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That’s exactly what I think too. If they want to take a TE though at 6 I’m perfectly ok with that. Lol


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Originally Posted by Mr.B

The problem is be doesn’t play WR, he plays TE. Also Mike Evans doesn’t have trouble getting off the line of scrimmage.


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Would you take tracis Kelce at 6?

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Originally Posted by Mr.B

First off, this is all a matter of opinion as fas as who is the better prospect. Also you can argue your opinion all you want as well, doesn’t make you right. You can say you think Pitts is the better prospect and I disagree. In my opinion he’s highly overrated and will be in the Engram/Howard class within 3 seasons. TE is just not a position you draft in the top 10, I don’t care how talented he is. And yes, position matters whether you want to believe it or not. LT and CB are more important positions than TE and should be factored in. Especially a TE that can’t block and has trouble getting off the LOS.

And I could give a crap what guys like Mel Kiper say. Most of those “experts” are wrong when it comes to prospects and who’s getting drafted in the top 10.


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Buddy, you're taking this way too far (and FWIW, in the wrong direction). You can value whatever you want. You called it a fact that most people would agree with you that on talent alone Pitts is below the likes of Farley or Surtain, and I've tried to show you that you're wrong. Not on your evaluation, necessarily, but on thinking you have the consensus of the majority behind you. Because you don't. That's all there is to it.

You can try to spin it all you want into position value and whatever your valuation of him says he is going to be in 3 years or whatever, but let's just call it what it is - your opinion, and not a fact.

Also, just my two cents, but people picking on his blocking is among the silliest takes I've seen during this offseason.

Unless the Eagles at 6 decide to go Farley or Surtain too because they could also do that

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Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez

Would you take tracis Kelce at 6?

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Travis Kelce was drafted in the 3rd round.

Says a lot when you can find a guy like Kelce in the 3rd round.


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Originally Posted by koldjerky

Travis Kelce was drafted in the 3rd round.

Says a lot when you can find a guy like Kelce in the 3rd round.


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It does, but my point is, if he’s a Kelce clone as described, a 6 would be a no brainer.

My feelings on pitts are simple If you can line him up at X and Y consistently whilst in 11 personnel and use him in 12 personnel as a TE

Then I’d take him

If he can’t legitimately play the X and Y then I wouldn’t

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Originally Posted by last stand

My feelings on pitts are simple If you can line him up at X and Y consistently whilst in 11 personnel and use him in 12 personnel as a TE

Then I’d take him

If he can’t legitimately play the X and Y then I wouldn’t

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Yup

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Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez

Would you take tracis Kelce at 6?

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Not with an elite CB and OT still on the board I wouldn’t.


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Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez

It does, but my point is, if he’s a Kelce clone as described, a 6 would be a no brainer.

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Sure but How often do players get praise, hype, comped in this way only to fail?

I’d take Travis Kelce at 6 because I know what Travis Kelce is.


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Originally Posted by koldjerky

Travis Kelce was drafted in the 3rd round.

Says a lot when you can find a guy like Kelce in the 3rd round.


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And again, Gronk went in round 2


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Originally Posted by Andrei00

Part of what? Of deciding who is the better talent overall? No, it's not. You can argue your decision anyway you want to, but you clearly said that if you're going BPA, that's not Pitts over Farley or Surtain, while the vast majority of people who evaluate college prospects for a living and whose work is publicly available (analysts, 'experts', whatever) disagree with you.

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Positional value is absolutely factored into rankings.

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Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez

Would you take tracis Kelce at 6?

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Yes, absolutely. If the Eagles take Pitts then that is what I will be hoping for. However, hoping that a guy will become possibly the best TE in history or being disappointed with the pick is just setting the bar way too high. Anything less than Kelce and it won't look too good.

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Originally Posted by EAGLES3658

Positional value is absolutely factored into rankings.

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Weird how Pitts is ranked higher on just about anyone's board, then.