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I need to do more research on these guys. I don’t see the Cowboys taking a LB at 10 (at least not these guys) but if they trade down I could see something like this.
https://twitter.com/ricserritella/st...730467846?s=21
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Wow. Was thinking those guys might be around late 1st/early 2ndQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.B
I want the Cowboys to take one of those LB at 10.
I thought surf had a good point. If jerry goes linebacker at #10 then it means that he will be admitting that he was wrong with the LVE and smith picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1016
I can see either the Cowboys or Giants taking Micah Parsons.
I can definitely see the Giants taking Parsons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1016
As for the Cowboys, I wouldn’t be totally shocked if they did take Parsons. I doubt they will though. They have much bigger needs than LB. it is a need just. It as big as DL or CB.
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I think if parsons is there giants will take him
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I see this happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by ManningToTyree
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Will be interesting to see what the Falcons do at 4.
I still think they draft Fields. He’s a hometown kid and they need to start preparing for life without Matt Ryan. Marketing wise it would be great to have your star franchise QB also be a local product.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1016
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https://twitter.com/fishsports/statu...330675200?s=21
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Its possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.B
Rumor is that both Atlanta and Detroit may look to trade down.
If the Pats don’t draft/trade up for a QB, really think Zaven Collins will be the pick. Dont’a Hightower is as injury prone as they come so he’s spent most of his career being held out of games for small injuries and “load management” type stuff, but he truly is a special talent at LB when he’s healthy (i.e. his playoff performances once all the load management is done). I think Collins has that same type of unique skill set to be his long term replacement. That’s a crucial role to fill for how BB likes to play defense.
Lovely, after thinking Zimmer would finally NOT be thinking CB in the first round for seemingly the first time in forever, he probably is again.....forking Gladney
If he’s there at 12 I’m actually starting to think the eagles may take him depending on who else is on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.B
I'm sure the Eagles would take Slater if available at 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by QQQ
I think my Patriots trade up in the Draft and we move up to take a quarterback because if we do that, then we are more or less set especially not only after all our massive free agency moves but if we trade up and take a QB, then our future looks even better going forward.
If BB gets a QB who can play even in the 15-20 range but do it BB’s way (I.e. a guy who a game manager type vs all or nothing) then I think he can have the Pats pushing 10 wins annually (or whatever the 17 game equivalent is) and competing for playoffs each year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tg11
I still think Cam has that modest level of performance in him. But if they move up and land a young player who can do it year in and year out, that’s ideal.
If they can somehow land a QB even better than that I think he’ll have them in the running for another SB. But that’s extremely difficult to do.
Kyle Trask might fit that bill (pun intended)Quote:
Originally Posted by hugepatsfan
I’ll be honest, I don’t even scout QBs. I don’t consider myself qualified. The position is so nuanced in terms of the mental side of the game, isolating what the QB messed up vs someone else, judging whether a throw will translate vs NFL coverage, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
For instance, Mac Jones seems to have the mental side down. But NFL defensive schemes are way more advanced. What I’d want to do is find the instances where clearly he was confused by the other team. How did he handle that play? How did he adjust in the future for what he saw? And then as far as physically throwing the ball, I’d want to really analyze the windows he threw into. Will NFL defenders close them? Does he throw with anticipation or does he wait for guys to get open and then throw? (The latter is a deathwish in the NFL IMO.)
It’s just too complex a scouting job for me to even try, TBH. So I won’t comment on if we should trade up for someone in the “top 5” or if the Trask/Mond/Mills/Newman tier is legit after them. I’ll just keep it generic and say that “if BB thinks he sees a viable starter he better go get him wherever that range is and he better be right about who is or isn’t the guy”. Drafting a QB position I’m going to try to “grade” or share an opinion on.
10.625 wins ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hugepatsfan
I do see playing inside but being extremely dominant at Guard or even Center.Quote:
Originally Posted by QQQ
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I hope not LOL. Give me the best receiver or corner on the board at 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by QQQ
Adam Schefter believes the 49ers will take Mac Jones at 3.
My mock draft and this is my personal opinion of which players go where
1- Trevor Lawrence (QB) (Jaguars)
2- Zach Wilson (QB) (Jets)
3- Mac Jones (QB) (49ers)
4- Kyle Pitts (TE) (Falcons)
5- JaMarr Chase (WR) (Bengals)
6- Jaylen Waddle (WR) (Dolphins)
7- Penei Sewell (OT) (Lions)
8- Rashawn Slater (OT) (Panthers)
9- Trey Lance (QB) (Broncos)
10- Patrick Surtain Jr (CB) (Cowboys)
11- Kwity Paye (EDGE) (Giants)
12- Jaycee Horn (CB) (Eagles)
13- Micah Parsons (LB) (Chargers)
14- Jaelan Philips (EDGE) (Vikings)
15- Zaven Collins (LB) (Patriots)
16- Greg Rousseau (EDGE) (Cardinals)
17- Alijah Vera-Tucker (OL) (Raiders)
18- Najee Harris (RB) (Dolphins)
19- Greg Newsome (CB) (WFT)
20- Christian Darrisaw (OT) (Bears)
21- Caleb Farley (CB) (Colts)
22- Azeez Ojulari (EDGE) (Titans)
23- Teven Jenkins (OT) (Jets)
24- Trevon Moehrig (S) (Steelers)
25- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB) (Jaguars)
26- Jayson Oweh (EDGE) (Browns)
27- Asante Samuel Jr (CB) (Ravens)
28- Joe Tryon (EDGE) (Saints)
29- Landon Dickerson (C) (Packers)
30- Kelvin Joseph (CB) (Bills)
31- Elijah Moore (WR) (Chiefs)
32- Jamin Davis (LB) (Buccaneers)
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by QB_Eagles
Why not? The game of football is won and lost at the line of scrimmage. Jason kelce isn’t playing forever. Brandon brooks tore his Achilles’ tendon twice. It’s not a sexy pick but it could help just as much as a cb or WRQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1016
Draft officially starts at 4 with Atlanta.
I realized the Eagles have a history of drafting OLine and DLine. Build in the trenches. I just don't believe Slater or Darrisaw are BPA at 12. I don't hate the pick but I would be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by QQQ
49ers GM and HC will attend Justin Field's 2nd Pro day on April 14.
This is an article from the Cowboys point of view but if you’re interested in seeing a comparison between Patrick Surtain and Jaycee Horn.
https://twitter.com/dmn_cowboys/stat...507101185?s=21
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Well, its also just about their last chance to win now with Matt Ryan. The Saints will probably drop, Brady is probably only another year or two, the Panthers will probably be competitive but not great as they look for a franchise QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.B
On the other hand the Falcons shouldn't draft this high again any time soon, so like you say, they should grab a QB now... but... the QB they get a 4 this year might be as good as a QB they get at 20 or 30 any other year.
Given how much improvement the Falcons showed without Quinn, I'd say take the BPA for OL or D or trade down for 2 picks.
Or another mock that I've done purely off the top of my head or how I see things playing out in the next 3 weeks
1- Trevor Lawrence (QB) (Jaguars)
2- Zach Wilson (QB) (Jets)
3- Mac Jones (QB) (49ers)
4- (BLOCKBUSTER TRADE)- Justin Fields (QB; Patriots...my Patriots move all the way up to the #4 pick trading with the Atlanta Falcons...my Patriots trade up to get a QB to sit behind Cam Newton up in Foxboro...we take Fields at 4
5- JaMarr Chase (WR) (Bengals)
6- Penei Sewell (OT) (Dolphins)
7- Kyle Pitts (TE) (Lions)
8- Rashawn Slater (OT) (Panthers)
9- Trey Lance (QB) (Broncos)
10- Christian Darrisaw (OT) (Cowboys)
11- Patrick Surtain Jr (CB) (Giants)
12- Jaylen Waddle (WR) (Eagles)
13- Jaycee Horn (CB) (Chargers)
14- Kwity Paye (EDGE) (Vikings)
15- DeVonta Smith (WR) (Falcons via trade w/Patriots; move down to 15; DeVonta somehow slips to the Falcons at 15)
16- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB) (Cardinals)
17- Trevon Moehrig (S) (Raiders)
18- Najee Harris (RB) (Dolphins)
19- Greg Rousseau (EDGE) (Washington)
20- Greg Newsome (CB) (Bears)
21- Jaelan Philips (EDGE) (Colts)
22- Rondale Moore (WR) (Titans)
23- Caleb Farley (CB) (Jets)
24- Davis Mills (QB) (Steelers)
25- Kadarius Toney (WR) (Jaguars)
26- Jayson Oweh (EDGE) (Browns)
27- Asante Samuel Jr (CB) (Ravens)
28- Zaven Collins (LB) (Saints)
29- Nick Bolton (LB) (Packers)
30- Landon Dickerson (C) (Bills)
31- Terrace Marshall Jr (WR) (Chiefs)
32- Christian Barmore (DL) (Buccaneers)
I think you’re way off with Darrisaw to the Cowboys at 10. First, he’s not even rated that high. The Cowboys insiders are saying they have 4 guys on their board they want 10. The four are Sewell, Slater, Surtain, and Horn (in that order). Jerry has Pitts ahead of them all but I don’t know if Stephen and McClay feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tg11
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Good read. The Eagles will take whichever one the Cowboys didn't want:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.B
I like both but if I have to pick one for the Eagles give me Patrick Surtain.
I really think both will end up being elite CB’s. Out of the two I probably still prefer Jaycee Horn but I would not be upset at all with Surtain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1016
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So here's been my question regarding SF- they traded up to #3 and everyone assumes that is to take a QB. OK, I can see that. But they're also being tied to Mac Jones. OK, I can see that, too. What I can't wrap my head around is...if Mac Jones is their guy (sidebar being I don't know why), why trade all the way up to 3? Obviously it was possible to trade to 6 with the Eagles, since Miami did just that. Was there really a chance Jones isn't there at 6?!
They had to have heard something.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
My real theory is they had a few of them rated them same and they wanted to have their pick rather than take who they could get.
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