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03-29-2022, 10:17 AM
Kenny Powders

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I have already told you this.. I haven't seen who had more people with anti vaccine rhetoric.

the longer Trump has been out of office there has been more anti vaccine rhetoric from the right, but there were people with anti vaccine rhetoric from the left while Trump was President and the vaccine was becoming real. I've already talked about what Kamala Harris said and as typical there is a deflection away from the left and over to the right.

Did you get to check out Trumps rally of mental decline. It was pretty bad

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03-29-2022, 10:54 AM
Bird of Prey

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

So now he’s just openly doing it. I’m sorry but you don’t care about America if you’re still supporting Trump.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ings-oligarchs

Sure. Instead we have a corrupt President whose disgraced son acted illegally as an agent for the family in making them all millionaires by using Joe as a power broker.
03-29-2022, 11:00 AM
Kenny Powders

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

Sure. Instead we have a corrupt President whose disgraced son acted illegally as an agent for the family in making them all millionaires by using Joe as a power broker.

Did you hear that he had a laptop, too? Even dabbled booger sugar

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03-29-2022, 11:01 AM
metswon69

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

Sure. Instead we have a corrupt President whose disgraced son acted illegally as an agent for the family in making them all millionaires by using Joe as a power broker.

Sure. Instead we had a corrupt president whose disgraced son in law and daughter acted illegally as agents for the family in making them all millions of dollars by using Donald as a power broker.

See how that works.
03-29-2022, 11:32 AM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

Sure. Instead we have a corrupt President whose disgraced son acted illegally as an agent for the family in making them all millionaires by using Joe as a power broker.

Would love some evidence of this. I trust you would want me to present evidence if I accused Trump of being pissed on by Russian hookers. Right?
03-29-2022, 12:31 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I have already told you this.. I haven't seen who had more people with anti vaccine rhetoric.

the longer Trump has been out of office there has been more anti vaccine rhetoric from the right, but there were people with anti vaccine rhetoric from the left while Trump was President and the vaccine was becoming real. I've already talked about what Kamala Harris said and as typical there is a deflection away from the left and over to the right.

When discussing polls you said what the left on PSD did was worse than you because 2 is more than 1. The same logic applies here. Far more people on the right were anti-vaccine than the left.

You cannot pick and choose when your logic applies.
03-29-2022, 12:36 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ

I wasnt suggesting that lockdowns were ineffective but that it wasnt the solution. That it should weigh the entire impact to society. I do expect some deaths if lockdowns were lifted but if the overall impact to society is less that way (since you have to balance), then that's what I agree with.

The WHO itself said lockdowns weren't the best solution and the Omnicron variant was suggested to be not as severe (by the team that discovered it and by CDC/WHO). So when I say that Canada shouldnt have been in lockdown the past 3 months, it isnt out of nowhere. I supported lockdowns early on in the pandemic but it wasnt warranted during our last lockdown with Omnicron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc...ticle/12753688

If there's a deadly variant of Covid that tuens people into The Walking Dead, sure I can see a lockdown if that happens to err on the side of caution

I agree lockdowns aren’t the best solution to the Omicron variant, but you are mischaracterizing the WHO’s guidance. They did not say not to use lockdowns or that they were ineffective. To the contrary, they said lockdowns are sometimes necessary:

https://mobile.twitter.com/who/statu...625920?lang=en

They said they were not a sustainable model, which is true.
03-29-2022, 01:01 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

"the Squad" wants to tell Joe Biden what to do.

why would any President get in trouble for answering questions from reporters.. Joe Biden literally said himself he would get in trouble.

there were a lot of times Trump took questions from reporters. now maybe I didn't pay enough attention but not once did I ever see Trump say he would get in trouble for answering questions.

You sure get hung up on the dumbest ****.
03-29-2022, 01:04 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I have already told you this.. I haven't seen who had more people with anti vaccine rhetoric.

the longer Trump has been out of office there has been more anti vaccine rhetoric from the right, but there were people with anti vaccine rhetoric from the left while Trump was President and the vaccine was becoming real. I've already talked about what Kamala Harris said and as typical there is a deflection away from the left and over to the right.

Yeah, you brought it up (again) and then numerous people factually pointed out how full of **** you are (once again). Yet you continue to see that talking point as some sort of victory.

It's almost like you're some combination of completely disingenuous and effectively braindead.
03-29-2022, 01:23 PM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

You sure get hung up on the dumbest ****.

If anyone thinks the Squad is in charge, they can tell me why Build Back Better isn't the law of the land.
03-29-2022, 01:52 PM
Raps18-19 Champ

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Originally Posted by valade16

I agree lockdowns aren’t the best solution to the Omicron variant, but you are mischaracterizing the WHO’s guidance. They did not say not to use lockdowns or that they were ineffective. To the contrary, they said lockdowns are sometimes necessary:

https://mobile.twitter.com/who/statu...625920?lang=en

They said they were not a sustainable model, which is true.

I'm not mischaracterizing it. I'm applying it to what has happened since I'm saying a lockdown hasn't been warranted since that statement was made (in October 2020) yet Canada has gone into lockdown.

I outright said afterwards if there was a deadly variant then I would be understanding of a lockdown if we have to err on the side of caution. But that strain hasn't come yet. If it kills younger people or kills more of the population then sure. But as of right now, that hasn't happened and looking back for past 1.5 years, it wasn't warranted.
03-29-2022, 01:57 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ

I'm not mischaracterizing it. I'm applying it to what has happened since I'm saying a lockdown hasn't been warranted since that statement was made (in October 2020) yet Canada has gone into lockdown.

I outright said afterwards if there was a deadly variant then I would be understanding of a lockdown if we have to err on the side of caution. But that strain hasn't come yet. If it kills younger people or kills more of the population then sure. But as of right now, that hasn't happened and looking back for past 1.5 years, it wasn't warranted.

You are making it seem like various health organizations are against lockdowns. They aren’t. They specifically say they may be necessary in certain circumstances.
03-29-2022, 02:03 PM
Raps18-19 Champ

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Originally Posted by valade16

You are making it seem like various health organizations are against lockdowns. They aren’t. They specifically say they may be necessary in certain circumstances.

That's nowhere near true. 1 of my post used their exact wording "not the best solution", another post I had said 'in compliant' and the another applied it to what happened in the past as a situation.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here when I even said in the post you quoted that if there was a situation that warranted a lockdown I am all for it, but that the situation hasnt happened yet. If that situation hasnt happened yet yet my jurisdiction went into a lockdown, of course Im gonna say the lockdown shouldnt have happened.

That doesnt mean we cant have a lockdown in the future. But we have to get there first and the benefit to society has to be significant enough to justify it.
03-29-2022, 02:07 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ

That's nowhere near true. 1 of my post used their exact wording "not the best solution", another post I had said 'in compliant' and the another applied it to what happened in the past as a situation.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here when I even said in the post you quoted that if there was a situation that warranted a lockdown I am all for it, but that the situation hasnt happened yet. If that situation hasnt happened yet yet my jurisdiction went into a lockdown, of course Im gonna say the lockdown shouldnt have happened. That doesnt mean we cant have a lockdown in the future. But we have to get there first.

EDIT: Duplicate post
03-29-2022, 02:09 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ

That's nowhere near true. 1 of my post used their exact wording "not the best solution", another post I had said 'in compliant' and the another applied it to what happened in the past as a situation.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here when I even said in the post you quoted that if there was a situation that warranted a lockdown I am all for it, but that the situation hasnt happened yet. If that situation hasnt happened yet yet my jurisdiction went into a lockdown, of course Im gonna say the lockdown shouldnt have happened. That doesnt mean we cant have a lockdown in the future. But we have to get there first.

You had another post that said “organizations say lockdowns aren’t the answer”

Regardless, so long as you agree none of the medical organizations you mentioned are against lockdowns but believe they should be used circumstantially we are in agreement.

And I’m sure this is by mistake, but you previously said you supported lockdowns in the beginning but now you’re saying there has yet to be a situation that warrants a lockdown. Can you clarify?

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