https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe...h=3f94ed3e58a3
Lord knows how much additional money he took from supporters/cultists funding the "big lie".
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe...h=3f94ed3e58a3
Lord knows how much additional money he took from supporters/cultists funding the "big lie".
It’s truly amazing how people act like they don’t see the grift. They know exactly what whats going on but are dependent on him to make it through Republican primaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
**** em, they fell for the grift so it’s in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Did I say I doubt the charges against Gaetz? If so, please show me.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
I simply said that he is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. He has shown that he is one of the least effective members of congress and supports very odd things. He deserves his day in court just like anyone else accused of criminal activity.
Your bias does not allow you to read what is written without adding your opinion to it.
And yes, you are a partisan poster.
If you do not doubt the accusations against him and your only point was to inform us he is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, it was unnecessary, we are all aware of this basic tenet of our legal system.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
To circle back to what you originally post, perhaps I am biased and as a result I cannot read what is written without adding my opinion to it, but you are most definitely biased in that you cannot inform us of basic legal facts without inserting your opinion...Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
It appears that when a Republican is involved, you have forgotten that important tenet. All I have said is that he deserves his day in court and let the judge sort out the evidence.
Do not attempt to put words in my mouth. Read what is written, not what you want it to say.
EDIT: as have you, since you seem to agree he’s likely guilty...Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
Yes, you are biased. All I said was that he is presumed innocent until guilt is proven in a court. It is not up to the media to decide if he is guilty or not. You would likely be dismissed from the jury pool due to your biases. I doubt if you could render an unbiased decision based soley on the evidence presented in the courtroom. I would not wish to sit on his jury, as I feel he is likely guilty of the charges, but I won't be asked to serve, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
You said that, but apparently you don’t believe it since you yourself believe he is guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
You’re mad at me for believing he is likely guilty before a court conviction despite you yourself believing he is likely guilty before a court conviction.
Of course I can. The difference in the cases is quite interesting, however. Cuomo's accusors are all adults with very high standing. I'm not really sure who is bringing the charges against Gaetz.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Given the 2 cases, I would say that Gaetz has the better chance to be found not guilty in court, due to the accusors.
This said, I feel both should be found guilty.
Perhaps, but no one is as knowledgeless as you appear at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
partisan of you to assume their guilt before a conviction.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
When did I say that I didn't believe he was guilty? Its just another indication of your biases. You wanted me to have said I didn't believe he was guilty. All I said was that he should have his day in court and not have the media decide his guilt or innocence.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Again, your biases do not allow you to see this case objectively. You should recuse yourself from further discussion of same.
This is an opinion, not a statement of fact. Again, you are unable to read what is said without actually understanding what is really said.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16