Reserve your comments towards those of us that are positively IQ'd. Brett won't understand those multi-syllable words.Quote:
Originally Posted by MRSpock
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Reserve your comments towards those of us that are positively IQ'd. Brett won't understand those multi-syllable words.Quote:
Originally Posted by MRSpock
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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
Sure they had made Masks the linchpin to stopping or greatly slowing down the virus. And Faucci is about as bad as it gets on his advice for dealing with the virus and its "remedies". He must have made millions of bucks with his "endorsements" of this drug versus another drug to fight the virus. He's a clear asshat. I also love the statement of "respected scientists". YOu mean like Faucci and some of the windbags who get hired by the Fake News Networks to spew out their ignorant crap?Quote:
Originally Posted by MRSpock
As for your ever so stupid indictment of Trump not helping with the "rollout" of the virus and not helping distribute it, what a crock that is. It is not the federal government job to do this. This job is deliniated to the STATES, buddy. In fact Cuomo and Newsome and other Dem Governors refused a lot of federal government assistance all through this Covid nonsense until they finally had to be rescued by the feds when their stupid plans go awry.
As for global warming, see sunspots and call me in the morning.
Where do some of these people come from? :facepalm:
He got owned on the election fraud stuff so he just plows on through to the next inane conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
they should charge everyone that broke in with treason yesterday... they wont thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Zmaster52
They should get the same fines and/or jail time(sic) that all of the BLM and other rioters got when they ransacked and burned buildings and set fire to police stations in major cities. No more. No less. How's that? Or is Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell worth more than the people who lost businesses and jobs due to the ANTIFA and BLM rioting?Quote:
Originally Posted by More-Than-Most
Trying to overthrow a democratic election vs burning down a KFC. Same thing right LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
Yes people who burn down ****, and riot should be prosecuted. These crimes are not equivalent though.
Holy cow. I.... Wow....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
The word you're looking for is wowieQuote:
Originally Posted by mike_noodles
Pretty much says it all:
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Donald Trump is a deranged lunatic who needs to removed from office as soon as possible and I don't care what his supporters think about that. He is a very dangerous individual and his actions on Tuesday led to four people dying in one of the most disgraceful moments in our nation's history. History was never going to treat him well, but the mob attack on the Capitol Building is what people are going to take away from his Presidency. He openly encouraged it and if reports are to be believed, refused to call in the National Guard. It's insurrection, sedition, and treason. He should be removed from office immediately and it doesn't matter that he is scheduled to be out on January 20th. What if an emergency comes up and we need the President to make decisions? Do we want the man who just caused an insurrection making decisions for the country? Case and point.
As for his supporters, most of them have been conditioned to think and act the way they do. They've been conditioned for decades by politicians, mostly republican politicians, and the media, mostly right-wing media, to hate. Hate anything that's different from who they are and what they know. They then try to manipulate that hate and convince these people that their lives will be better if they vote for them, and the media helps these politicians. So our society has gotten to this point because our leaders and the media refuse to tell the truth. The truth is we don't have a political party that looks out for the average joe. Our political parties are akin to a monopoly and both work toward the same goal, enriching their donors. Screwing over the working class to increase corporate profits by a fraction is modus operandi for Washington.
So when a guy like Trump, who is the most anti-establishment candidate in at least a millennium, comes around it's no wonder they flock to him. He represents all the hate they've been spoon fed for generations. The only way to stop this cycle of hate and ignorance is to tell the truth and enact policies that will benefit their lives. We have to have at least one political party step up and start representing the working class of this country. What I said about Trump at the beginning of this post remains true, but he was always a symptom. What happens over this next Congressional cycle is going to be very determinative on if things will finally actually get better or if we just revert back to what was before. If we just simply go back to the way things were before Trump, someone worse than Trump will rise up next time. If that happens this nation will really be lost.
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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
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Originally Posted by MRSpock
prosecute for what is deserving based on the law, that includes anyone whether they are Trump supporters, BLM, or Antifa.
that should be the standard.
imagine if any Republican was trying to raise bail money for any of these people that stormed the Capitol on Wednesday.
it's apparently okay for a Democrat.
You forgot to link to trump saying he'd pay those legal fees. I'm sure you just forgot. Have you ever considered a career as a window?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
show me where I said that was fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
I just said.. prosecute for what is deserving based on the law, that includes anyone whether they are Trump supporters, BLM, or Antifa.
that should be the standard.
You just did say it was fine, that's why you didnt link it. Instead you asked us to imagine if a republican was doing it, when you clearly know that one had. It's a disingenuous argument, and trolling, considering that you know that it's a disingenuous argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
no I didn't. did you bother to read what I just posted, twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
It is the standard you dingus. You think BLM and antifa get away with things? You think cops are more partial to them than right-wingers? You think the Justice Department is?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
I'd have a little respect for you if you were just honest about your beliefs. If you just said that you are more partial to this sort of violence. If you didn't constantly have to dance around everything and bend yourself into a pretzel with the mental gymnastics. If you were just open and honest with everyone about what you really feel.
I support BLM and "antifa" a hell of a lot more than I support the right-wing mobs we saw this week and right-wing protests in general.
Your turn!
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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Sure you did, you know what the president said and told us to imagine if he said that. He did, and you chose not to link it because it killed your argument. You dont really have an issue with any of this stuff in the least. Your issue is who, not what, or you'd just ne honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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Originally Posted by ManRam
bold, yes.
I've already provided evidence, raging fire and CNN called it a mostly peaceful protest.
any support of domestic terrorist antifa is inexcusable.
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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
You provided evidence that they get away with things?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
My favourite thing about this forum is all the people who genuinely think they’ll get FNK to admit he’s wrong.
Police and law enforcement are notoriously soft on leftists, civil rights leaders and minorities. You're right. Everything about this nation's history suggests this is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
when media fails to condemn rioting, that is allowing them to get away with said rioting.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
did media call this mostly peaceful protest or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
No, the media's job is not to hold people who riot and loot accountable. That's law enforcement's job, and they've arrested and charged hundreds of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
it's the medias job to report the news, and calling a building on fire a mostly peaceful protest is wrong when people can see and know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
they have done this before, downplaying any rioting or violence from the left, they allowed Antifa to be called a myth.
What was the ratio of looters to peaceful protesters? What numbers did you put together from what you saw?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Republican posters basically posting “ We are being treated unfairly, treat us like we feel we should be treated “ The party of “ Say Merry Christmas damn it “ Party of snow flakes, cucks, and babies.
A small and insificant upside to Trump's presidency is that it's clear as day who the fragile babies are. I haven't been called a snowflake, a "chuck" or anything in years :laugh: How could anyone do that with a straight face when Trump exists? The biggest snowflake and crybaby in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
The number of liberal tears being drank by the right-wing hogs has plummeted almost completely. Thank you, Trump!
Such a tired routine. :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Your silence says it's fine, as does your long history of viewing everything Trump says or does with rose-colored glasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
....BuT wHaT aBoUt AnTiFa?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
And even if you're the president right SPecial?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
So inciting a riot? 10 counts of obstruction of justice? Surely you think these crimes should be charged, and given their fair due process in accordance with the law.
And the cops that clearly were a party to this nonsense? All fired, Pensions removed, and sent to prison. Right Special?
Oh and BTW the people that broke into the capitol are facing upwards of 20 years in prison.
The thing is Special when you say "each should be prosecuted based on the law" the inference there is that people aren't. Then someone will of course point this out, and you'll go "I NEVER SAID THAT".
It's the Jordan Peterson strategy. Never actually make the prescriptive claim. Create the trail of bread crumbs that leads everyone to the same place, but then when someone says "so you think ____" throw your arms up and say "HOW DARE YOU PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH".
Clinton was the first acceptable black president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
But hes referring to obama. Obama's black black.
That's where the anger started seeping in..
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Trump Having Second Thoughts About That Concession Video
Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters feel angry and betrayed over the Thursday video in which the president tried to distance himself from a pro-Trump riot in Congress, despite the president’s advisers assuring him he had not alienated too many of his fans.
Shortly after his White House video—in which a scripted President Trump acknowledged that a transition to a “new” administration was underway, but stopped short of even admitting that he indeed lost fairly to his 2020 Democratic opponent—posted online, Trump started having second thoughts. Throughout the evening, the outgoing, increasingly authoritarian leader of the free world quizzed close advisers and White House officials about whether or not he did the right thing and if the reception from the public, the media, and his supporters was “good,” according to two people with direct knowledge of the conversations on Thursday. He asked if his supporters felt let down.
And, with the nation still reeling from the week’s tumult and deaths, the president is also now looking to other ways he can make himself look “good,” recent casualties aside. According to two people with knowledge of the situation, Trump and some close to him are now discussing the possibility of him doing multiple media interviews as soon as next week to attempt to highlight his legacy, including with an interview they're hoping to focus on the Middle East deals he and his son-in-law, senior adviser Jared Kushner, helped strike. Even though certain top officials want him to lie low as much as possible, Trump, the sources say, is excited and keen on sitting for interviews in the coming days—because he says he wants to showcase as many of his and his administration's “amazing achievements” before his time in office is up.
Some who spoke to him attempted to comfort and reassure him that his video was being well-received and that he did what he needed to do and that Democratic lawmakers who were calling for his removal from office were just trying to kick him when he was down. On Friday, Trump received further assurance about his Thursday video, and is, as of Friday afternoon at least, “fine” with it, another person with knowledge of the matter insisted. The president, of course, has been known to abruptly change his mind on these things.
Left unsaid was the fact that the backlash from his diehard fans had already begun online. Some called for Trump to keep up the fight, others said they felt betrayed.
But, despite confidants’ efforts to shield him, by early Friday, it appeared that he’d started noticing some of the fallout.
“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” Trump posted to Twitter on Friday morning, in his first written tweet since getting temporarily locked out of his account for openly egging on the deadly riot in Washington, D.C.
He followed up that post with another one reading, “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th,” implying that a Biden inauguration would indeed occur.
But many of Trump’s hardcore supporters were distraught to see Trump call for prosecution of the rioters “heinous” actions, just a day after he urged them to go to the Capitol in a speech outside the White House.
On the pro-Trump forum “The Donald,” some Trump supporters saw the video as proof Trump had abandoned them to the predations of a Democratic Party that will soon control the White House and both houses of Congress. A 4,000-comment thread reacting to Trump’s speech appeared to have been deleted by Friday.
“I’m angry as **** that Ashli Babbit [sic] died for this and received this speech in return and you should be too,” wrote one poster, referring to the rioter who was shot by Capitol Police on Wednesday. “To call what we did heinous is.....****ed.”
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Many of Trump’s supporters in the QAnon conspiracy theory world have alienated their friends and family in the pursuit of the idea that Trump was a sort of messianic figure who would literally murder their enemies and create a kind of MAGA utopia. As a result, they took the quasi-concession speech hard.
“So that's it? It's over?” one QAnon fan tweeted at former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn. “Has the towel just been thrown in and the hell with the rest of us? How do we pick up the shattered pieces and mend our families and friendships?”
White nationalist Nick Fuentes took to Twitter to request pardons for people who had invaded the Capitol. But after Thursday’s video, Fuentes accused Trump of abandoning his supporters.
“People were willing to die for this man and he just threw them all under the bus,” Fuentes complained on Twitter.
Later, Fuentes decided that Trump may not have ditched his supporters after all, positing that the video may have been a hoax “deepfake” video created by artificial intelligence to create a fake Trump.
Fuentes wasn’t the only Trump supporter getting into conspiracy theories. Many promoted the idea that Trump had been forced to make the video against his will, or that the video itself was a high-tech fabrication. DeAnna Lorraine Tesoriero, a QAnon promoter and former congressional candidate whose call for Trump to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci was once retweeted by the president, posted her confusion about the video on conservative social media site Parler.
“Did he get hacked?” Tesoriero wrote.
As the most devout of Trump’s dead-enders have made clear, nothing will shake their belief that the imagined election-theft occurred.
“God chose Donald Trump for eight years, not four,” MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, a personal friend of the president’s and a big financial backer of several recent pro-Trump efforts to nullify the election, previously told The Daily Beast. “Even if Biden is inaugurated, there’s no statute of limitations [on stealing an election]. Yes, I will keep investigating this, [even if he’s sworn in], and I’m not going to stop trying to get this out there to the American people.”
If Bird or FNK want some help piecing together their friends and family relationships after abandoning them for the Cult of Trump, I'm always willing to help.
Man. Imagine being so sure that QANON was really a thing that you lost family and friends over it.
I’ve cut several people out of my life because they were ridiculous like these people. It’s sad. It’s almost like a drug abuser.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_noodles
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What's sad is Trump has taken these extremist views from the fringes and mainstreamed them into the Republican party. There were hardcore extremists, and then there were a lot of ordinary looking people who were yelling and doing the same stuff. Lots of 40, 50 and 60 year olds there.Quote:
Originally Posted by KobeOwnSU
Several Trump cultists on this forum have tried to say that QANON (particularly that guy who bet 5k on Trump winning the election and is now in hiding, but is perhaps masquerading as birds of prey troll account) is no big deal and nobody in the GOP backs them (despite Trump retweeting them and GOP politicians affiliating with them).Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_noodles
This story, which Special and his blind sheep ilk will run and cower from, is such an exposure of how low Trump supporters will sink to cling to their fallen avatar of evil.