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is that lying about the 2016 election results, being stolen, is that why the left was rioting for 4 years? that went on longer, with a lot of the same things said. stolen election, unfair, Trump cheated, blah, blah, blah. none of that was true either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Like I said the usual suspects to come in and defend Trump at every turn. 2 straight months of him taking to social media and every chance he had national exposure claiming "rigged election" surely had no contribution to riling up large groups of supporters who slurped up every drop of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
I ask you this. If Trump publicly and humbly concedes when Biden won Pennsylvania, does the events that happen on January 6th occur?
Think really hard before you answer that. Dont try to spin it. Dont what about. Just answer it.
I will answer how I want.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
of course what Trump said had a factor in riling people up, to protest. which is exactly what thousands more people were doing that day at the Capitol.
just as lying about Brett Kavanaugh with sexual assault allegations riled up to left to, storm the Capitol.
https://twitter.com/womensmarch/stat...35356673437697
but I guess that was totally fine.Quote:
We were planning to shut down the Capitol Building but the authorities were so scared of this #WomensWave that they shut it down for us.
1000+ women, survivors, and allies have gathered in the Hart Senate Building.
Every hallway. Every floor.
Indiana isn’t sending their best people.
https://twitter.com/toddrokitain/sta...736952327?s=21
It’s ok for those BLM people to burn stuff down and representatives encouraging that but how dare Trump not tell his supporters to go into the capital!
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Saying the election was rigged isn’t a crime dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
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The usual suspects....
"When the GOP selects their candidates, they're not sending they're best...Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
...They are sending people who have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.
They're being thugs, they're bringing crime, they're racists, and none I assume are good people." ;)
some claimed Russian collusion. that was totally fine, and went on for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
election fraud? holy **** outrage!#$
Democrats also rejected electoral college in 2017.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/statu...05131319406597
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...allenge-233294Quote:
Democrats objected to the certification of electoral college votes from 10 states on January 6, 2017.
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House Democrats fail to muster support to challenge Trump’s Electoral College win
there is a double standard, and people are routinely manipulated for politics.
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
How sad.
You either being intellectually dishonest with yourself or you're just doing more deflecting as always. You'll admit as much culpability with Trump that still keeps his innocence in tact when we all know that his constant proclamations of the election being rigged was a significant reason why those people did what they did. If he concedes and doesn't let the charade go on, this doesn't happen. No, instead he was holding rallies even up to the point of Congress confirming the electoral votes. No connection between that rally on January 6th and the events that happened that day though :rolleyes:.
I am sure if those people were home instead of at the capitol building we still would have seen hundreds of idiots trying to overtake it.
It’s such a joke. ‘16 election was rigged!!!!!! How dare you say the ‘20 election was stolen!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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Great minds think alike.
Proof is a handy thing to have in either caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
I don’t think Trump shooting someone would phase these two
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I guess you can relate shooting someone with saying the election was rigged. Totally relatableQuote:
Originally Posted by ewing
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In a sense they are, because the election fraud claim has no actual tangible evidence behind it, yet people swallowed it up because trump said it, no other reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
It definitely illustrates a concerning loyalty which overrides reality for many people.
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They are comparable in that in both cases it results in people dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
And what do you think about the people who really believe Russia colluded and interfered in the election in ‘16?Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
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Did you think the Congresspeople in the Capital that day had it coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Oh no they had a bunch of people screaming at them!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Almost like the Trump administration officials who have had things thrown at them and yelled/screamed at also.
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And you call me a piece of ****. You’re belittling an event where 5 people died? At least I joke about death instead of trivializing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Ok you supported them. you should say that instead of whatabouting all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Hack alert!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
I think they are people who are overly concerned with pointless propganda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Yet you have the nominee in Hillary Clinton and many major senate and house Democrats saying the election was stolen and that Hillary should be president yet you don’t see any major news or tv stations calling for the removal of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
Why is that? What was the main difference between Hillary going on major news stations saying the election was illegal or rigged. She’s still saying that and Trump saying the election was stolen?
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Because Hillary was saying it after conceding, trump wasnt conceding or accepting the result. He was trying to somehow flip the vote. Trumps rhetoric was that of saying they need to stop the steal from taking place and that's why people took arms and went to the capitol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Cmon, you seriously need the difference between the 2 situations explained?
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Her supporters didn’t storm the Capitol to overturn the election and get 5 people killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
I think the big differences are;Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Clinton didn’t impede the transfer of power and neither did Obama. Meanwhile Trump launched dozens of lawsuits based on lies and tried to pressure, cajole, and bully the individual states, senate, congress, and the Vice President to do something that was unconstitutional at best and very possibly illegal in overturning the outcome of a democratic election.
From what I remember Clinton’s big objections came down to her questioning the electoral college as opposed to the popular vote, that the Russians used social media to spread propaganda and influence people’s votes, and that the Republicans had done a lot of gerrymandering leading up to the election. While there are arguments to be made for the other side on the college/popular vote and gerrymandering, all of these happen to be true. While Trump spread lies and riled up his base that the election was straight up illegally stolen.
Imo they are really big differences.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bramaca
Remember when he first brought it up, said the court gonna give him the election, lol, that they could just rule in any way to help him out. Idiot.
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Your blind allegiance to Trump and all things Republican is really affecting your critical thinking skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
It gets brought up as the example because Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any voters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTAC...ab_channel=CNN
He was saying there what we have known all along...it's a cult!
Trump never stopped the transfer of power either. He filed lawsuits sure but he has every right to do that. The dems wanted investigation over investigation and even tried to impeach them because they were so obsessed over Russia. They basically were saying Russia hacked the election and he was not a real president. Dem representatives had impeachment papers ready against him the first day he took office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bramaca
Clinton couldn’t do anything to “stop” the transition of peaceful of power but she did everything in her power to make it seem like she won the election and it was Russia that made her win. Hell, she’s still doing it to this day
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Good point. These Dems need to be held accountable for that insurrection back in 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Of course, only 7 House Dems objected while over half the House GOP caucus objected. But sure, totally the same thing. :rolleyes:
What actually DID he do during his last weeks in office that was ACTUALLY work a president SHOULD be doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Was it not the equivalent of your sitting in the office all day, doing nothing productive for your company, angrily posting about things you don't like about politics on the internet while still happily collecting your check?
You know there is a huge difference between how they handled it, you just don’t want to admit it. Hillary was a douchey sore loser. Trump was all of that plus negligent and imo criminal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
We aren't going to get far if everybody is spinning off into alternative narratives on important issues. Apart of conducting a peaceful exchange of power is to accept the election result and not try to overturn the results of the election in states one lost. There are no good excuses for Trump's actions and, like I thought would happen with this impeachment, they let him get away with it. Can't expect a corrupt system to do otherwise.
My god these people are just grifters to the core. I remember when she was posting videos of how abusive her mom is.
https://twitter.com/americanidol/sta...197663747?s=21
so relationships can't be repaired? or teenagers overreact?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
I mean I have no idea and it's not like Kelly Ann (it's Covid 19 not Covid 2 people) Conway is a fav of mine.
Point is, you're leaping to conclusions you know nothing of either.
She was on camera beating her daughter and she leaked nude photos of her daughter to embarrass/shame her. So yea maybe don't think of her as a favorite, but more like a criminal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf