The Cult of Trump

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Originally Posted by valade16

That you think a guilty or not guilty verdict is this infallible determiner of whether someone did something...

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No, I do not think that. The point remains, however, that a person must be presumed to be innocent until they are proven guilty -- at least that is how I understand the US court system. If I am incorrect, I would appreciate having the truth pointed out.
Your statement shows me that you believe that a person is guilty until proven innocent. That a person is accused of something means that they must have done it.......at least a Republican is guilty of something just because s/he is accused of something.

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Originally Posted by SfgiantsJD3

Yes, how does that mean I am defending him with how he treats women, are you assuming that some support means all support?

How does my voting for trump mean I support everything he does?
If you voted for Hilary or Obama does that mean you support protecting Harvey Weinstein from the press?

If you had read elsewhere I have discussed that there are lots of single issue voters, my vote for Trump was for my pocket book and against socialism. From business I knew he was an ******* 30+ years ago.

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Every time someone says socialism in American politics, an angel gets beat over the head with a hammer. It's literally the stupidest ****ing trope in all of American politics.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Every time someone says socialism in American politics, an angel gets beat over the head with a hammer. It's literally the stupidest ****ing trope in all of American politics.

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That's pretty much what I'd expect from you. A complete disengagement from reality.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Every time someone says socialism in American politics, an angel gets beat over the head with a hammer. It's literally the stupidest ****ing trope in all of American politics.

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Thanks for putting that out there.

Someone had to do it..

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

A complete disengagement from reality.

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Yup. Angels are indeed among the great unreal.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

That's pretty much what I'd expect from you. A complete disengagement from reality.

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If you walk around praising capitalism and bashing communism /socialism, you're the one that's disengaged my friend

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

now sure, how many allegations are there.

all worth investigating, lets find out what is true and what is not.

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You can delfect any which way you like but the fact remains that democrats and Republicans act differently when one of there own has some pretty damning sexual allegations brought up against them. There's really no debating that even though I'm sure you will find some dumb way to

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Thankfully it was a much smaller amount. But I had to wade through a bunch of fine print like this to stop recurring donations for my grandmother to Trump recently. They were thankfully $10-20 donations. But damn it added up to a few hundred dollars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/u....co/3a0MHEbpRM

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Originally Posted by SfgiantsJD3

Yes, how does that mean I am defending him with how he treats women, are you assuming that some support means all support?

How does my voting for trump mean I support everything he does?
If you voted for Hilary or Obama does that mean you support protecting Harvey Weinstein from the press?

If you had read elsewhere I have discussed that there are lots of single issue voters, my vote for Trump was for my pocket book and against socialism. From business I knew he was an ******* 30+ years ago.

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It means that you don’t view his behavior towards women as enough of a problem to not vote for him, which makes it laughable you’re mad about Democrats for not ceasing their support for someone after a single accusation when you yourself did not cease your support for someone despite dozens.

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Originally Posted by catman

No, I do not think that. The point remains, however, that a person must be presumed to be innocent until they are proven guilty -- at least that is how I understand the US court system. If I am incorrect, I would appreciate having the truth pointed out.
Your statement shows me that you believe that a person is guilty until proven innocent. That a person is accused of something means that they must have done it.......at least a Republican is guilty of something just because s/he is accused of something.

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That is true... of the US court system. But your opinion is not the US court system and you do not need to wait for a guilty verdict to form an opinion, nor must you presume a person innocent until they are found guilty.

When Hassan shot up Ft. Hood, I didn’t presume he was innocent of the charges and only believe he was guilty after the verdict was rendered. I believed him guilty long before a Judge said so. Was I wrong to do that?

I do not believe a person is guilty until proven innocent, I believe I can look at the facts of a situation and make up my own mind instead of relying on a far from perfect court system to tell me who I think is guilty or innocent.

I’m curious, do you believe Jeffrey Epstein is innocent because he wasn’t proven guilty in a court of law? Or are you capable of determining guilt without an official verdict?

Man Fox is still on about Hunter Biden’s laptop. LOL but it’s not a cult.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Man Fox is still on about Hunter Biden’s laptop. LOL but it’s not a cult.

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What else can they bring up when is their guys that are in trouble?

It’s going to be whatabouthunterbiden for a while.

imagine ever thinking in our lifetimes we would have a world wide pandemic that shut down the globe and a US president cult that has caused 2 impreachments and an attack by people were the presidents orders on our own nation... humans.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Man Fox is still on about Hunter Biden’s laptop. LOL but it’s not a cult.

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give it a few days and they will be talking about Hillary's emails again. Probably if and when Gaetz gets arrested. Then it will be Obama month after that and repeat back to Hunter's laptop in a few months.

Remember when he tried to make Pence refuse to certify the election results, called him a coward on social media for refusing, and then Pence wound up running for his life.


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