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12-01-2022, 01:02 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

It's pretty cute that you are now posing as a military and police expert.

spliffy, this is a general order in the army:
I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved.
Now, do you have anything else to troll about?
12-01-2022, 01:10 PM
nyyfan555

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Originally Posted by catman

Why then was no attempt made to breech the window until the guards simply walked away from their posts?
And this is a serious question.
I agree that the Trump-supporters were not in the mood to compromise. They wanted to get into the congressional chambers. This leads me to say, once again, that if security was inadequate, it was due to poor planning.

Because that is when their adrenaline was highest? Any speculation as to the timing of their move is irrelevant. They had plans to infiltrate multiple areas of the capitol no matter what.
12-01-2022, 01:31 PM
catman

You are apparently agreeing with me here. The video evidence shows that they waited until the guards walked away from their posts to make their move. The decision to breech the door/window was made by individuals and that decision comes with the responsibility to accept the consequences. Ms Babbitt made the decision, and suffered the consequences of that decision.
12-01-2022, 01:51 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by catman

Why doesn't it make sense? The officers guarding the door simply walked away from their post and left the door/window area unguarded for over 40 seconds. During that time, Ms Babbitt made the decision to attempt to breech the window. She was shot and killed. Hence her death being completely her responsibility.

Still blabbering on with that patented catman nonsense.
12-01-2022, 01:53 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by catman

Answer your own questions. The video evidence does not support your narrative.
As I said, there was no reason for you to respond further. This post is proof positive that my statement was correct.

What was it? Two days and a dozen nonsensical replies ago that you claimed you were done discussing this topic with natepro?

Talk about zero self control. :laugh2:
12-01-2022, 01:53 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Still blabbering on with that patented catman nonsense.

As expected, more trolling.
12-01-2022, 01:55 PM
nyyfan555

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Originally Posted by catman

You are apparently agreeing with me here. The video evidence shows that they waited until the guards walked away from their posts to make their move. The decision to breech the door/window was made by individuals and that decision comes with the responsibility to accept the consequences. Ms Babbitt made the decision, and suffered the consequences of that decision.

I do not agree that had the officers been there, none of that would have happened, which is what you stated earlier.

My comment about their adrenaline being high was just me being facetious, but that doesn't come through via a text based discussion. In any case, the video shows that they made their move after the officers moved, but doesn't indicate that they were waiting for that. My point is that they were going to try and storm through no matter who was there because they had stormed their way to that point already.
12-01-2022, 01:57 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by catman

spliffy, this is a general order in the army:
I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved.
Now, do you have anything else to troll about?

Is it also a general order to talk out your *** and constantly repeat yourself?
12-01-2022, 01:58 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by catman

You are apparently agreeing with me here.

My goodness. Your book of tricks is very small and very predictable. :laugh2:
12-01-2022, 01:58 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Is it also a general order to talk out your *** and constantly repeat yourself?

What part of the general order don't you understand?
More of the expected trolling, the only thing you do here.
12-01-2022, 01:59 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by nyyfan555

I do not agree that had the officers been there, none of that would have happened, which is what you stated earlier.

My comment about their adrenaline being high was just me being facetious, but that doesn't come through via a text based discussion. In any case, the video shows that they made their move after the officers moved, but doesn't indicate that they were waiting for that. My point is that they were going to try and storm through no matter who was there because they had stormed their way to that point already.

What makes you say that? Did you see any serious attempts to climb into the window while the guards were in place?
12-01-2022, 02:20 PM
nyyfan555

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Originally Posted by catman

What makes you say that? Did you see any serious attempts to climb into the window while the guards were in place?

Well, they weren't just standing around playing cards and whistling. They always had every intention of breaking into that room. Saying "serious attempts" is downplaying what was taking place whether or not you intended to downplay it.
12-01-2022, 02:43 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by catman

Answer your own questions. The video evidence does not support your narrative.
As I said, there was no reason for you to respond further. This post is proof positive that my statement was correct.

I did.

You rejected that explanation, and provided one of your own: "They simply walked away from your post."

Given that this is what you believe, why would one of them say "they're ready to roll" before wandering off for his lunch break or whatever you think he was doing? What could that possibly mean? And who was "they"?
12-01-2022, 02:45 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by catman

Howso? Did they tell her to breech the window? She made a conscious decision to attempt to breech the window, the guards walking away gave her the opportunity to do so. Again, the decision to breech the window was completely hers, therefore the consequence from the action is completely her responsibility.
As to me trying deflect blame from the Trump-supporters, I do not. They were breaking the law by doing what they did. They were completely responsible for their own personal actions and should be held accountable for these decisions.

Unless you're suggesting the window gave birth to her feet first, the word you're looking for is "breach."

Seems like a nurse would know that.
12-01-2022, 02:46 PM
Kenny Powders

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Originally Posted by catman

What part of the general order don't you understand?
More of the expected trolling, the only thing you do here.

Seriously....you weren't a volunteer deputy sheriff before?

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