The Cult of Trump

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Originally Posted by natepro

And anyone that disagrees with you is a DNC-loving moderate that you completely demonize for disagreeing with you. I guess that says more about your mentally, too?

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Perfection is the enemy of progress.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Perfection is the enemy of progress.

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I’ve seen it slightly different but the message is the same.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

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Originally Posted by natepro

And anyone that disagrees with you is a DNC-loving moderate that you completely demonize for disagreeing with you. I guess that says more about your mentally, too?

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Well gotdamn, son aren't you, DB and Valade card-carrying moderates? You are the only one who disagrees with me so vehemently on the DNC policies. A long the Progressive and Moderate divide. I definitely never called the republican posters DNC-loving moderates whether or not they are dissing the DNC at the time. Who here isn't a moderate on the left side of the aisle aside from myself?

You are complaining about being called a DNC-loving moderate? yous quack like a moderate, walk like a moderate, and attack progressive issues like a moderate. If any of yous are Bernie's bros, Trumpsters, or a Neocon in the closet, my bad.

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Originally Posted by WES445

So we focus on my writing skills but not Nat lying? cool.

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My spelling skills usurp my mind reading skills. Not to mention that the issue is word usage, not spelling.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Well gotdamn, son aren't you, DB and Valade card-carrying moderates? You are the only one who disagrees with me so vehemently on the DNC policies. A long the Progressive and Moderate divide. I definitely never called the republican posters DNC-loving moderates whether or not they are dissing the DNC at the time. Who here isn't a moderate on the left side of the aisle aside from myself?

You are complaining about being called a DNC-loving moderate? yous quack like a moderate, walk like a moderate, and attack progressive issues like a moderate. If any of yous are Bernie's bros, Trumpsters, or a Neocon in the closet, my bad.

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You say moderate but I think what you mean is someone who actually accomplishes something. Purist ideology accomplishes absolutely nothing. There’s no Civil Rights or Voting Rights Act going the way you push. There’s no Constitution or Bill of Rights.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

My spelling skills usurp my mind reading skills. Not to mention that the issue is word usage, not spelling.

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Well, we can open up a special thread to discuss that which I probably will ignore. I'm old and probably be drooling in my oatmeal in ten or twenty years. Being involved in caring for family elders, probably drop a load in my depends during half-time as well. So, why should this be important to me?

Spend half my time learning the difference between Enalapril, Labetalol, and Nifedipine and how they affect various organs so mom's kidneys don't completely fail. Finding the right fiber supplement to work on constipation or dealing with dementia. Dealing with crappy nurses and befuddling Doctors. So my English usage isn't a worry for me compared to other things.

If you were serious about helping my English usage, you would have PM me instead of making a public talking down about it. Criticize in private, praise in public

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

You say moderate but I think what you mean is someone who actually accomplishes something. Purist ideology accomplishes absolutely nothing. There’s no Civil Rights or Voting Rights Act going the way you push. There’s no Constitution or Bill of Rights.

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uh-huh. So we are going to go by what you think I mean when I post something? Slow down Wes Whisperer, I just call the side like CNN, and MSNBC calls it. Moderate, Progressive. No hidden meaning beyond that.

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Originally Posted by WES445

uh-huh. So we are going to go by what you think I mean when I post something? Slow down Wes Whisperer, I just call the side like CNN, and MSNBC calls it. Moderate, Progressive. No hidden meaning beyond that.

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All I can go off of is my interpretation of things. When I see someone that I think is pushing towards people who don’t accomplish anything and just yell at clouds, I'm going to point it out. It's like the people who don't see Bernie Sanders as a useless fool who has literally never accomplished anything that he wasn't dragged kicking and screaming into supporting.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

All I can go off of is my interpretation of things. When I see someone that I think is pushing towards people who don’t accomplish anything and just yell at clouds, I'm going to point it out. It's like the people who don't see Bernie Sanders as a useless fool who has literally never accomplished anything that he wasn't dragged kicking and screaming into supporting.

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Thank you, Chris Matthews. And Nate complained that I called you a moderate? Your crusading Bernie Hater is back on MSNBC. Should make you happy.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Well, we can open up a special thread to discuss that which I probably will ignore. I'm old and probably be drooling in my oatmeal in ten or twenty years. Being involved in caring for family elders, probably drop a load in my depends during half-time as well. So, why should this be important to me?

Spend half my time learning the difference between Enalapril, Labetalol, and Nifedipine and how they affect various organs so mom's kidneys don't completely fail. Finding the right fiber supplement to work on constipation or dealing with dementia. Dealing with crappy nurses and befuddling Doctors. So my English usage isn't a worry for me compared to other things.

If you were serious about helping my English usage, you would have PM me instead of making a public talking down about it. Criticize in private, praise in public

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Overreact much?

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Overreact much?

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Think I care what you think much? Especially about me, personally? Really? Try something new, I don't know, like what issue moves you besides word usage?

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Originally Posted by WES445

Why go thru me the second source? Just google what its residents want. Come back and give your feedback. Hell, everyone here heard enough from me about it. I told how the court skip out on prosecuting the city planners who poison the community for budget cuts. No response. Told how lead poisoning has jumped among the children there which doesn't bode well for their ability to develop social skills, no response. This isn't about FLint's water problem, is it? You have never shown an interest before. Really, no social problems register on your radar, unless it's an excuse for why it can't be done. I give you a cookie. Why didn't we solve Flint's water problems before now? We found out about it during the Trump administration. Don't you think it is a two-fold problem? Them not getting clean water and the government is unable to do so. If your kid got lead poisoning after drinking your tap water, would you just say "well kids, they didn't have the vote or mandate to fix it. Learn, if you are able, to sell pencils or be a door stop"

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Courts don't prosecute people; district attorneys or attorneys general do. The state supreme court did throw out dozens of charges against multiple people over the way they were indicted. Whether or not that changes the statute of limitations or not, I don't know.

Either way, there's been a $600+ million civil settlement with the state and others.

Lead poisoning hasn't "jumped." We may be seeing the impact of it more now, but this is not the same thing as a "jump" in poisonings. Tests are showing the levels of lead in Flint are well below safe levels now.

You not paying attention to anything else I've said about other issues, or simply forgetting, doesn't make it magically not happen.

We found out about Flint during the Obama Administration. 2014. You should probably know things like this is you plan to keep using this as a token to attack people with. We can talk about how much the Obama Administration sent to Michigan and to Flint in the following years, but my check for that conversation hasn't cleared yet from the DNC so it will have to wait.

I have no idea what "why didn't we solve Flint's water problems before now" is supposed to mean. We've been pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into Flint for years now. The University of Michigan developed a predictive model in 2016 that uses machine learning to predict where lead pipes are located, and has shown a remarkably consistent 70% hit rate in locating them. The city has inspected over 27,000 water lines and replaced more than 10,000 that were found to contain lead. As of Sept 2022, there were about 5% of lines that are suspected to be contaminated; in total it's about 1600 remaining lines, and they expect about 30% of them to be contaminated. On top of all of that, the water plant had also undergone a significant, multi-million dollar update, and the water source was switched away from the Flint River, which is what caused the problem in the first place.

Virtually all of this has been happening since 2016. None of this is an overnight process; Lancing, Michigan began replacing all of their lead service lines in 2004, long before anything had even begun in Flint, and they finished replacing the last line in 2016. It took them 12 years to do what was done in Flint in around six years.

So, again, what does "before now" mean? Do you think finding and replacing the lead pipes in a city's water infrastructure is an overnight job? They did it in half the time of Lansing, and with a global pandemic and supply chain shortage happening in the middle of it. If that doesn't tell you about the amount of time, attention, and money that has been given to Flint, I guess nothing will.

"Them not getting clean water and the government unable to do so" is a nonsense jumble of words, and I don't have my Wes-to-English dictionary handy to figure out what it's supposed to mean.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Well gotdamn, son aren't you, DB and Valade card-carrying moderates? You are the only one who disagrees with me so vehemently on the DNC policies. A long the Progressive and Moderate divide. I definitely never called the republican posters DNC-loving moderates whether or not they are dissing the DNC at the time. Who here isn't a moderate on the left side of the aisle aside from myself?

You are complaining about being called a DNC-loving moderate? yous quack like a moderate, walk like a moderate, and attack progressive issues like a moderate. If any of yous are Bernie's bros, Trumpsters, or a Neocon in the closet, my bad.

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I disagree with your takes that seem entirely unfamiliar with the reality the rest of us inhabit. That you confuse that with being a moderate really only furthers my point.

"A long the Progressive and Moderate divide" is another collection of words that seem to have no idea what they're doing stuck together that way. It's not even a complete sentence, much less one with any clear purpose.

Again: you are not the arbiter of who is and is not progressive, despite how much your brand of progressives like to think you are.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Criticize in private, praise in public

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Huh.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Well, if I'm tossing the word "liar" around, which doesn't pertain to one's intelligence but integrity, I think I will be all right, even with my limited ability, calling you a liar. I know they both start with the letter "I" and you just got confused. Or you just don't know what the word integrity means. Once again confusion indicates the condition of thinking not one intelligence factor.

Just another FYI moment for you, huh? They just come a thousand a minute with you. No wonder you are constantly amazed. Just our little WONDER LAD, yes you are. "Flint got a water problem? Wow, man."

Heartfelt correction: It isn't about your comprehensive skills, they are fine, you are just a liar.

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Originally Posted by WES445

You are such a liar, Nate, and stupidly so to push this farce.

You silly fool, can't take a hint? Comprehensive skills showing again.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Save yourself some time and read the funnies they are readable and match your comprehensive skills.

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Originally Posted by WES445

So we focus on my writing skills but not Nat lying? cool.

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Originally Posted by WES445

You have never shown an interest before. Really, no social problems register on your radar, unless it's an excuse for why it can't be done.

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Originally Posted by WES445

How about you quit posting bs lies about what I have posted then. You ain't f'ing all you think you are if you have to resort to lying and playing games. F'ing clown.

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You were saying?

6 members of Congress held up McCarthy's 14th opportunity at speaker of the house. Boebert and Gaetz among them who voted "present" leaving McCarthy one vote short. He had some heated discussion with them because he wanted them to change their vote and they wouldn't do so lol.