The Cult of Trump

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Trump never stopped the transfer of power either. He filed lawsuits sure but he has every right to do that. The dems wanted investigation over investigation and even tried to impeach them because they were so obsessed over Russia. They basically were saying Russia hacked the election and he was not a real president. Dem representatives had impeachment papers ready against him the first day he took office.

Clinton couldn’t do anything to “stop” the transition of peaceful of power but she did everything in her power to make it seem like she won the election and it was Russia that made her win. Hell, she’s still doing it to this day


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You know there is a huge difference between how they handled it, you just don’t want to admit it. Hillary was a douchey sore loser. Trump was all of that plus negligent and imo criminal.

We aren't going to get far if everybody is spinning off into alternative narratives on important issues. Apart of conducting a peaceful exchange of power is to accept the election result and not try to overturn the results of the election in states one lost. There are no good excuses for Trump's actions and, like I thought would happen with this impeachment, they let him get away with it. Can't expect a corrupt system to do otherwise.

My god these people are just grifters to the core. I remember when she was posting videos of how abusive her mom is.

https://twitter.com/americanidol/sta...197663747?s=21

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

My god these people are just grifters to the core. I remember when she was posting videos of how abusive her mom is.

https://twitter.com/americanidol/sta...197663747?s=21

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so relationships can't be repaired? or teenagers overreact?
I mean I have no idea and it's not like Kelly Ann (it's Covid 19 not Covid 2 people) Conway is a fav of mine.
Point is, you're leaping to conclusions you know nothing of either.

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

so relationships can't be repaired? or teenagers overreact?
I mean I have no idea and it's not like Kelly Ann (it's Covid 19 not Covid 2 people) Conway is a fav of mine.
Point is, you're leaping to conclusions you know nothing of either.

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She was on camera beating her daughter and she leaked nude photos of her daughter to embarrass/shame her. So yea maybe don't think of her as a favorite, but more like a criminal.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

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How sad.

You either being intellectually dishonest with yourself or you're just doing more deflecting as always. You'll admit as much culpability with Trump that still keeps his innocence in tact when we all know that his constant proclamations of the election being rigged was a significant reason why those people did what they did. If he concedes and doesn't let the charade go on, this doesn't happen. No, instead he was holding rallies even up to the point of Congress confirming the electoral votes. No connection between that rally on January 6th and the events that happened that day though :rolleyes:.

I am sure if those people were home instead of at the capitol building we still would have seen hundreds of idiots trying to overtake it.

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what Trump said was a significant reason why people did what they did, the far more people there protesting that were not rioting. media wants you to think everyone there was violent, when those that were rioting were the minority of those involved.

even if wrong you know protesting is an American right, just as those Kavanaugh supporters getting into the same place.

but I know people hate that comparison.

if they had not lied about Kavanaugh, that (among other things) would not have happened.

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Originally Posted by valade16

They are comparable in that in both cases it results in people dying.

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since we have already established that violence is more than death, how many of the hundreds of Trump supporters being physically attacked would not have happen if the other side wasn't certain about Russian collusion,or calling Trump evil and those that support him the same. I know I've seen that delusion from some here.

that is why Antifa has been supported, because as anti fascist (********) and Trump supporters naturally being fascists and Nazis (********) Antifa has been supported, despite them being called domestic terrorist activity.

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Originally Posted by valade16

And you call me a piece of ****. You’re belittling an event where 5 people died? At least I joke about death instead of trivializing it.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Her supporters didn’t storm the Capitol to overturn the election and get 5 people killed.

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what about this past summer's rioting, where more people died.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...l-unrest-acled

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At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest, according to new data from a non-profit monitoring political unrest in the United States.

Nine of the people killed during protests were demonstrators taking part in Black Lives Matter protests. Two were conservatives killed after pro-Trump “patriot rallies”. All but one were killed by fellow citizens.

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who was held accountable for this. since apparently Trump should be responsible for the actions of rioters at the Capitol, who is or should be held responsibly for the actions of these people, with more violence and death.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Because Hillary was saying it after conceding, trump wasnt conceding or accepting the result. He was trying to somehow flip the vote. Trumps rhetoric was that of saying they need to stop the steal from taking place and that's why people took arms and went to the capitol.

Cmon, you seriously need the difference between the 2 situations explained?

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her conceding is trumped by her many actions after that.

she along with many others should have accepted the fact that Trump won, but they didn't. their lies and misinformation had violent consequences.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

what about this past summer's rioting, where more people died.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...l-unrest-acled


who was held accountable for this. since apparently Trump should be responsible for the actions of rioters at the Capitol, who is or should be held responsibly for the actions of these people, with more violence and death.

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9 of the 11 deaths at BLM demonstrations were pro-BlM demonstrators. Sounds like the protestors were the victims of all the violence and not the catalysts.

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Originally Posted by valade16

9 of the 11 deaths at BLM demonstrations were pro-BlM demonstrators. Sounds like the protestors were the victims of all the violence and not the catalysts.

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still deaths, still rioting, still violence. from what, some of the time lying about what happened to lead to this unrest.

That’s an awful lot of cancel culture.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/15/politics/republicans-facing-censure-trump-impeachment/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

what Trump said was a significant reason why people did what they did, the far more people there protesting that were not rioting. media wants you to think everyone there was violent, when those that were rioting were the minority of those involved.

even if wrong you know protesting is an American right, just as those Kavanaugh supporters getting into the same place.

but I know people hate that comparison.

if they had not lied about Kavanaugh, that (among other things) would not have happened.

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I understand there were 1000s of people at his rally and only a fraction of them were rioters. That doesn't diminish Trump's culpability. He's a significant reason for both of those events. The protesting and the rioting.

My point is that's not the chain of events that happens if he's not spouting off his constant "We won by a lot" nonsense every single day from November 3rd to January 6th. You apparently don't understand how psychology works. There's a difference between isolated claims of election manipulation to a party of people that wasn't even fully behind Hilary and Trump consistently beating a dead horse to a huge base who were fervently behind him, some of which were extreme anarchists.

I hate to break it to you but Biden doesn't elicit nearly that same support. Democrats are much more fragmented than Republicans and the extreme right.

You mean you don't have a blue Biden hat and a comically large Biden flag erected on your vehicle?

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

You mean you don't have a blue Biden hat and a comically large Biden flag erected on your vehicle?

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This is why I don't have a ton of confidence in Democrats going forward. Not that I did before this but maintaining that momentum to keep their party in control (over either Congress and/or the presidency) is not there. The only saving grace is that newer generations become increasingly more progressive. That has its pitfalls too but I never want to see another person like Trump as president.