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No no no! This is a good thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by aman_13
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Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I agree I always felt it should be based on a case by case basis.
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Raps signing Birch.
I kinda like it :dance:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ
Def agree. I mean they have time to review it after the game before making the decision. But I also get the no tolerance rule because fights use to break out and the benches would clear. They’re just trying to avoid another mallace at the palace I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by aman_13
Yeah thats an interesting pickup but will Nurse even use him the right way? Considering he has Boucher and Baynes already as centersQuote:
Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ
It’s not like the guys a stud and we need to incorporate him right way. He’ll have his role and Nurse will certainly know how to use him if need be. We just needed to fill a roster spot, and also needed a big man so this works for the remainder of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tg11
He's a decent body. Has some defensive potential. Already old though.
Even then, we don't win enough back to backs for that to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
I don’t believe our stats in certain circumstances are indicative of a norm moving forward. Back to backs have been brutal, no doubt. I expect more of a return to norm there. I would suggest historically we have been abnormally better than the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
I like Birch. As a backup big anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Even when fully healthy, we don't have the depth to consistently win back to backs. In a condensed season, you pretty much need to win back to backs for a chance at .500 ball. In a longer normal season, a reversion would be possible, but I just don't see it happening this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
Totally thought you were talking about Powell and was super confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
Curious how you'd project the final 20 games. I've been known to be overly optimistic before. I just can't ignore some of those items that predict future performance (ie. point differential) that have us predicted with a higher expected record. It is totally possible in this strange season that we are what our record shows. I'm hoping for a lower record. I wonder if the team makes choices to ensure it (keeping players out).Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
Lol. I can see how you got there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
I hear you but id start him over Baynes lol 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
All jokes aside, if we had a legit C all year and Baynes was simply a back up I think we would actually be happy with him. I know that he does come off the bench when Siakam starts at the 5 but that’s out of necessity. I don’t really wanna go small next year with Siakam banging at the 5. He could end up getting injured. He’s a finesse big.
100%. Give the kid an opportunity to impress.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Yeah man you never know what he does with the opportunity. Plus with 20 games left it’s a good time to see what we can get out of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
There's just more noise this season so you can't really rely on those statistical markers. I mean our final stretch of games are against a lot of playoff teams fighting for positioning. I don't really see us winning any of those, maybe sneak a couple wins here and there. Even at full strength, .500 would be quit difficult in this final stretch. Next 20 games, I could see us winning maybe 5-7 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
Lowry, FVV, Siakam, OG, Trent jr, Boucher.
Problem is we’re only about 6 deep. Can’t imagine them in the loffs this year tbh. Would we really depend on guys like Bembry, Baynes, Flynn, to play significant roles in the post season? That’s why I’ve been all for the tank. We need to add some pieces.
That’s a great starting point for a lottery team though.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
You may be right. Watching tonight isn't giving me a of confidence in my previous position...Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
It isn't a joke at all. I'd start Birch over Baynes too...Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Yesssss absolutely, that’s why I’m stoked brother. With our scouting team picking gems late in the draft or finding undrafted gems I can’t help but feel enthusiastic about what we can add while keeping the core intact.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
You might already know this but, the Spurs were a 2nd round playoff team just like us. Robinson broke his leg and was out for the season. The Spurs ended up drafting Tim Duncan and the rest is history.
Now I’m not expecting a Tim Duncan, but surely we can draft a talented player in the top 10 range if we land there and adding that to a pretty good core already is just so intriguing to me.
You’re the one that got me looking in to this draft class and getting excited about it. I’m really not that big on college ball admittedly. But after looking up some of the entrants in the draft, I can def see some players who’s games can translate well to the nba level.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
It is pretty obvious to me that the Raptors definitely after last night simply just are not good enough to make the playoffs or even the play in tournament either. May as well start the tank now and land a high draft pick in this year's upcoming draft. After last night's loss, Draft lottery odds now look towards getting Keon Johnson, Scottie Barnes or Jonathan Kuminga now.
I have June 22nd circled on my calendar. I've been in the soft tank team for the past couple of months and now I'm in the full on tank team. I just hope we get some friendly ping pong ball bounces. This is a deep draft, but the top 5 is the dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Yah, it is an exciting year. Even outside the consensus Top 4 there are a bunch of guys that are potentially big difference makers. I still wish we were able to grab another 1st round pick at the deadline... Curious what those 2nd rounders turn into.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I'm hoping one of the second rounders turns into a high upside low floor center like Badji or Sotto. Both are really intriguing as to what they potentially could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
I was reading on Sotto. Would be a solid pick for us in the 2nd roundQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint Raptor
Mobley :hi5::cheers::rock::cheer:Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
So can someone explain to me how the lottery works now ever since they changed it? We don’t really need to be dead lost to land in the top 5 do we ?
Top 4 picks are all determined by the lottery balls. Odds are flattened from previous years. After the Top 4, rest of draft is based on reverse standings. Here is a link show the odds if the season ended today: http://www.tankathon.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Raptors are now tied with OKC I believe for 7th worst record. 29% chance to land in Top 4, 6.7% chance at Top 1.
mathematically, bottom 5 still ideal for bottom 4, even 6 gives you an outside shot. odds for no.1 still bad for everyone. but that's just long run probability. anything can happen if you draw once. :)
Thank you, I appreciate you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
I’m trying to play the draft out in my mind. Minni & Cleveland likely won’t pick Mobley as neither team needs a C. I don’t think Orlando would pick a C either being that they have Carter jr, and Bamba. OKC just signed a young promising C in Moses Brown who I think has a chance at being a pretty good big man in this league. My Rockets have woods, we really need to draft perimeter players in Houston. Detroit could very likely pick Mobley that’s like the only button feeder I worry about going after him. It’s not impossible for us to land Mobley. I know it’s not likely, but there is a chance.
Mobley could play PF. Minny is one of those few teams where it would make sense. But they're not going to go for a project cause of KAT. So you're prob right.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I think Orlando is going to pick a PG, Weltman likes having a PG to speed up development. I think they've given up on Bamba.
Moses Brown was a good find but he's not mobile enough to be a starting 5 on a good team. OKC is just going to draft BPA IMO. SGA is great but I think Presti still wants to find his guy.
Rockets i think are going for a wing.
Detroit is a wild card. Their young core is still pretty bad. I still think they're going to BPA.
Way to burst my bubble trace lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ecart
Yeah Detroit and OKC likely go with BPA. I’m hoping they land 1&2 and take Cade or Suggs. I’m not that high on Suggs myself but I know he raised his value in the tournament.
Houston is most def going for a perimeter player, no doubt.
Minni does need a PF, I was hoping the same thing would happen as last season when they passed on Wiseman for Edwards, which seems to have worked out ok for them.
I know it’s wishful thinking, and a long shot, but if the ping pong balls land in our favour ya never know.
I think what partially excites me about this draft is that plans B, C and D are exciting too. As long as they don’t go way off board...Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Moody and Kispert don’t really excite me mind you. Kispert’s stock seems to be falling beyond where we are likely to draft though
I think a lot of GM's careers are on the line with this one. I don't think a lot of them want to risk it on Mobley. So if you're high on Mobley, that is is your copium.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I just don't want another undersized guard or a raw prospect again. I don't know why people have a fetish for duo PG lineups but people are already floating the idea of Flynn+FVV. Shudders.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
Who is looking like the pick around our range?
I could see OKC taking Mobley.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
http://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength
I think Toronto can catch up to 5 maybe.