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Yup. I am shocked they lost last night still. Can’t believe how bad this stretch has gotten. I know it sucks for fans right now, but I think this stretch just ahead of the deadline makes tough decisions much easier for this front office. And you and I agree, these decisions need to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I am ready for a new era of Raptors basketball.
Not sure we talk about his defensive impact enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
Lol it is cute that we put all our eggs in that Giannis basket.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
But you’re right, one thing I will say is that good power forwards are scarce, and the premium could be just that. I get why Masai had to do it. But hey if we get an opportunity to trade him for some real assets I’m giving that strong consideration. Or I should say I’d like our FO too.
Like Wiggins and the Twolves pick?😀Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I mean it’s a quarter of the season left. I’m not entirely sure we even really need to tank. We lose to teams like the rockets and timberwolves. We’re pretty much 75% of the way there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
That pick is top 3 protected and the Twolves are in last place. I’m not sure how that works, do they get to keep it if their pick lands in the top 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
Wiggins although, I dislike him as a player, has improved somewhat this year, especially defensively. But his contract is trash, Siakam is better than Wiggins. I’m not that big of a Pascal hater lol
I don't think winning these games just to get knocked out of the first round is productive. People always talk about how it contributes to winning culture, players get play off experience etc. But you just need talent period. I remember people talking about how if we just get to the playoffs Toronto would be a free agent destination. Dream on.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
It's protected. Unprotected year after.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I’m not in disbelief at all. NBA is a star driven league. If you don’t have that bonafide super star or two you better have a strong 9-10 man rotation and quality depth. Any team who lacks both is going to struggle. I’m with you in that we need to usher in a new era. The Lowry era ended with a ship and that that is the best way for any era to end but at the same time, it’s time to set the team up for its next run. If we continue to stubbornly stick to what we have and lose assets to free agency we’re just digging a whole that will be difficult to come out from. It’s good to know when to restart and stay a head of the game. I don’t need to tell you, you’ve been preaching the same for a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
I’m just shocked people are still hoping for a playoff birth, why? For straight up embarrassment purposes? Or do we actually think that Giannis, Embiid, Harden, Durant won’t take a dump on us in the first round?
Taking on Wiggins would be the cost in order to get the pick. As ecart mentioned, pick becomes unprotected next year if Wolves land in Top 3 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
Lol Yeah Dream on for real. That mentality is wishful to say the least. Toronto isn’t a free agent destination due to its inability to win. It’s simply to the fact that it’s the only city outside the U.S, and most of these young American players have never left the country. It’s the foreign concept that some of them can’t wrap their heads around. But once they get here they seem to like it more than most American cities like Minni, Indiana, Detroit, or Cleveland etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
But yeah I know the type of fan you’re talking about. I’m just not the type of fan to wear rose coloured glasses and maybe I come off as negative but I really I think the productive thing to do is look toward the draft in a season like this. If we’re committed to the Freddy/Siakam/OG core, our best bet is to land a star through the draft.
That’s a tough one, the pick is desirable. But taking Wiggins on isn’t. I honestly don’t know.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
Andrew frustrates me more than any other player. He doesn’t have the fire, there’s no fight in him. Every time he plays he looks like he’s just going through the motion. He has all the talent and god given tools in the world but he just lacks hustle, heart, basically everything that makes Lowry great. I just don’t get it with that dude.
I don't understand that either. Winning culture is great if we are an ideal destination for free agents to flock. But we are far from it. We definitely need to get more talent. Teams like raptors can only get star players through draft or trade. I know MU hates losing, but sometimes you have to let it happen naturally. I still think this team is too good to get a lotto pick as it is now. They may easily go on a 6 or 7 game winning streak with lot of terrible teams in the east. So I really hope we trade some key players away for youth and picks. We definitely need a high pick this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
A chip in 2019 with this coach and our young core established that I think, it's time to retool and trade away our expiring contracts. Outside of FVV I'm not sure anyone would be untouchable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
Actually after some thought, yes I take that deal. Let me tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
This is what Siakam is owed after this season $31,320,000,$33,640,000,$35,960,000
This is what Wiggins is owed after this season $31,579,390, $33,616,770
Wiggins becomes an expiring after next season. So if it means getting out of that final year of paying Siakam $36 million, while adding a top 10 pick (Minnis pick will be top 10 for sure this year and very likely next year) and all we would have to do is endure Wiggins for a season or two? I’m considering that. It’s not a move that helps us improve now, but I think it helps us in a year or two for certain.