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I've been in the "sell" camp for a while, but I never expected it to go south this much. I long rationalized the start and totally get the COVID impact for much of this stretch. But these past 2 games I wouldn't have guessed. It's like Auston Powers losing his mojo in the Spy Who Shagged Me.
OG showing his value.
That contract is looking god awful now. Can't believe how far he's fallenQuote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
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I disagree. I’d say we are closer to winning. I think we would have made the playoffs this season if we had any home games. Or even if we just never got struck by covid. I also think we are in line for a quick turn around next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
I don’t see siakam’s contract as something that will hold us back. Not having siakam would be holding us back more than his contract will. It’s not easy to find a 20/8/5 PF who can defend any position.
100% agree with this. This was just a year of unforeseen obstacles that derailed us at every turn. Now are there some glaring issues? Yes. However, I don't think those issues are the core of Freddy, Siakam or OG. I think our utter lack of depth or burgeoning talent has been highlighted. I mean, you shouldn't have to be debating whether to give significant minutes to Paul Watson, Stanley Johnson, Yuta Watanabe or Terrence Davis. That is a glaring deficiency. Also, we don't play small ball because we're super into the modern day NBA. We play it because we don't have anyone trustworthy to put at the 5. Last year, we had Gasol starting, and a bench unit that included Norm, Serge and RHJ, with players like T Davis and Boucher playing spot minutes. This year, we're forced to play Norm as a starter due to his actual play, but also the circumstances. In order to become a formidable force again, we need that back end talent for Nurse to play with, and we need a viable big option. But, those are all issues we can solve in an offseason if we make smart trades for assets and utilize our $25 million in cap space effectively. I choose to be optimistic, and see this wreck of a season as a springboard to a quick turnaround.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
I am cautiously optimistic about Siakam. I think playing outside of Toronto has affected him. He has been inconsistent as a max player. But I think he can still be a good core piece. But completely agree with the depth issues. If raptors were planning to make a run in the playoffs this year, losing Gasol and Ibaka put a major dent in to that. Playing in tampa and the convid issues definitely hurt them. But even if they made the playoffs, I don't think they could have gone far with this current team. To me this is a great opportunity for this team to retool. I hope they are able to trade Lowry and Powell for some pieces. Then we can look forward to the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Raptor
Those are fantastic numbers for a guy leading his team to an epic 11th seed and losing to the rockets lol.... sure blame Florida. If you think that’s some sort of disadvantage to be in sunshine rather than in the cold. most of these guys if not all of them came from the states.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
How come no one else HERE sees it? It’s like he’s duped the entire franchise to thinking he’s worth $33 mill a year? And they don’t get how that hamstrings usQuote:
Originally Posted by Sadds The Gr8
It's whatever. If we didn't pay him someone else would have and we would have lost him for nothing. Would have been a PR nightmare on the heels of a championship. It's not like it would have changed our cap situation either.
I see him as a trade piece. Maybe not this year but once Norm and Kyle leave and he is further exposed I can def see us trying to move on from him. Although by that point it might be difficult to move him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecart
To me it’s not whatever at all, I see his contract and inability to live up to it being the story of the next era in raptors basketball. A dark cloud I didn’t want the franchise to be under for the next 3 season. But I guess I can relive the Bosh era, First round exits and all.. it is what it is.
It is possible we draft and develop a superstar and it won’t be such an issue. The future hasn’t been written yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
It's whatever to me cause we're not the Lakers. It was always gonna be like this unless we got lucky and got a superstar in the draft. It's not like we're gonna spend the cap on Giannis lmfao. Siakam can still be a pretty good no.2 or no.3 guy. Those guys get his contracts nowadays as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by smith&wesson
That’s why I think we need to give up on this season and land a high pick. I know you are of the same mind set. Imagine stringing together some wins just to enter the play in tourni for the heck of it. That would make me so mad bro lolQuote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
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Originally Posted by smith&wesson