I think they do Cleveland 2.0. Did some good moves but a few bad ones mixed in. Many good nights. Just enough not to win.
I think they do Cleveland 2.0. Did some good moves but a few bad ones mixed in. Many good nights. Just enough not to win.
Well its a lot easier to make the playoffs which they are currently projected to make so once they get it, its a whole new ballgame. Just have to be hot.
Not really Jays or Atkins related but AA locked up another dude to an amazing extension. Riley.
Gotta hand it to him it’s one of his major strengths.
I don't know most the players we acquired today. But Jays Brass have done good job past deadlines. Berrios, Cimber last year. Walker, Stripling year before
How did he draft him when he was running the Jays tho?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
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Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3
You gotta admit Reed… a Jays/braves finals would be super exciting for you and I lol. Imagine the drama in our hearts bahaha!
I only started using the same standards on AA that you use on Atkins to show how silly you are. Sure, a Braves/Jays WS would be fun. Just as long as it isn’t the Padres.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
No idea what you’re talking about but meh. Yeah it would be exciting. Why wouldn’t you want to face the Padres?Quote:
Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3
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Originally Posted by ChongInc.
Title needs updating....It's year 7
He addressed teams biggest weakness without digging deep into his farm system. With bullpen this deep, If a starter goes down we could use an opener
Well then it would just be a simple yes. 2 years ago people still struggled with answering the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by hanton
We can argue this one way or another. But at this point, all of those people who claimed Shapiro and Atkins would come to Toronto and run the team into the ground and would never spend money, etc were all 100% wrong. We may not all agree on how good they have been, but they certainly have not been the nightmare we were told they were going to be.
He’s gonna hire Eric Wedge! Bring me his head!Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_noodles
That was my favourite part.
He did hire Eric wedge.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3
That’s the best part.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
IIRC people were worried he was going to bring him on to eventually become the manager.
He would be the 2nd longest GM in team history at 7 years so he would go move to 2nd place with a playoff appearance this year.
Sorry, but he is on par with Gord Ash...and Ash might have been better but he had no money to play with. According to Shakins, the money is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ
Yeah seems like we are usually at least this good when ownership spends in the top quarter of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderdan22
In 92, the Jays had the highest payroll in baseball, made the necessary moves in the offseason leading to the season, and then tweaked the team only needing to bring in Eichhorn and Cone...none of this need to rebuild the team mid season crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
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I think he definitely needs to win the division to be 2nd best. Right now he has the edge in tenure. I think a finals appearance or division title would inch him past AA’s time with us.
To be fair though, the Yanks and Red Sox sucked in the late 80's and most of the 90's. No other GM in Toronto has had a window of opportunity like Gillick had.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
That’s true. And AA took advantage of a down year from those teams too in 2015. I don’t deduct points for that, it’s smart. But added points for atkins if he is able to accomplish either of those feats without that opportunity. Would be a fair tiebreaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_noodles
Man, what the Sox are doing right now is painful to watch. They’re gonna finish under Baltimore.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
I'd say time for new GM. If he hasn't turned team around in five years chances are he is not.
This team stinks. Poorly put together with many holes. 40 million dollars in bad contracts doing nothing for team. Has little in farm as most been traded away.
Atkins been here longer than 5 years bro. AA started with a way worse situation, and had us as the best team in the league in 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie
AA does it again.
“ Harris and the Braves agreed to an eight-year, $72 million contract late Tuesday night. The deal comes just two weeks after Atlanta and Austin Riley agreed on a 10-year, $212 million deal.
The Braves announced the deal, which includes a $15 million club option for 2031 with a $5 million buyout and a $20 million club option for 2032 with a $5 million buyout. Harris will draw an annual salary of $5 million the next two seasons, an annual salary of $8 million from 2025-26, a $9 million salary in 2027, a $10 million annual salary from 2028-29 and $12 million in 2030.”
Serious question: is AA the best contract negotiator in the league? He doesn’t spend much in FA, but he’s been shooting 100% on his extensions for his entire career.
Not all those extensions gonna work out.
They have so far. I guess we will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ
A great point brought up in another thread. Another AA gift for Atkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
So far yea but at some point it wont work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
They did with a championship with that strategy so doesnt really matter if not all works out anyway. And they are currently 4th best record this year with a good mix of young and old so no one probably complaining until later on.
If we allow ourselves to step out of the Atkins/AA debate, we can also then allow ourselves to see that as a great gift AA gave to this organization and fan base as a whole. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
Honestly, this is very insulting to every fan. We spend the money. Give the credit where it is due, to the fans that bust their ***** at jobs they hate so that they can go see this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChongInc.
Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_noodles
Kind of like how John Hart gifted Braves fans a World SeriesQuote:
Originally Posted by pebloemer
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Aha! Nice one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
Dude paid the price.
Why are we bringing things up that AA has done since he quit on the team? Guess people must be upset at Atkins doing a better job here than AA ever could?
Read the room dude…Quote:
Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3
But to answer your question, we are debating who the better GM is out of all the Jays GM’s. It’s exactly on subject. Sorry you don't like the content :(