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10-22-2020, 11:40 AM
johnny ny

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Originally Posted by johnny ny

for a team like the yanks with this much talent to go 11 years without even being in the world series is insulting.. and i do not see the yanks going to the series any time soon unless major changes are made.. and since i doubt that would happen the yanks would have missed a chance and will only go backward...the dodgers have been to the series 2 times in the last 4 years....it shows you what a good gm and great ownership can mean to a team...

p.s actually the dodgers have been to the world series 3 times in the last 4 years.. are you paying attention cashman?
10-22-2020, 03:36 PM
Posada20

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Originally Posted by johnny ny

p.s actually the dodgers have been to the world series 3 times in the last 4 years.. are you paying attention cashman?

Cashman doesn’t care , he said years ago that the playoffs were a roll of the dice and that anyone who makes it to the playoffs can win the World Series . Of course that has been proven false over and over but whatever .
10-22-2020, 06:54 PM
OhSoSlick

Clint Frazier a gold glove finalist.

What a turn of events for the young outfielder.

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10-22-2020, 08:18 PM
Stevemil505

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Originally Posted by johnny ny

p.s actually the dodgers have been to the world series 3 times in the last 4 years.. are you paying attention cashman?

When was the last time the LA Dodgers actually won a WS? Seems relavent since most posters here usually are complaining about how long it has been since Yankees have won a WS; anything else is a failure so Dodgers have "failed" each of those 3 years too, right? Right?
10-22-2020, 08:35 PM
OhSoSlick

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Originally Posted by Stevemil505

When was the last time the LA Dodgers actually won a WS? Seems relavent since most posters here usually are complaining about how long it has been since Yankees have won a WS; anything else is a failure so Dodgers have "failed" each of those 3 years too, right? Right?

Some just lack logical thinking.

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10-22-2020, 08:36 PM
Posada20

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Originally Posted by Stevemil505

When was the last time the LA Dodgers actually won a WS? Seems relavent since most posters here usually are complaining about how long it has been since Yankees have won a WS; anything else is a failure so Dodgers have "failed" each of those 3 years too, right? Right?

Yes that is failure but getting to those three ws is a lot more than what the yanks have achieved in the last 11 seasons now
10-22-2020, 10:44 PM
Webslinger

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Originally Posted by Jones

I'm not too enthusiastic about 2021 or 2022 for that matter. The Yankees are starting to operate like a dinosaur. We are never ahead of the curve. We are a large market team that has fallen in love with small market strategy. The only problem is that we don't follow through with that small market strategy and sell players when they have excess value (Voit) or when they approach FA (Judge) to collect more assets.

We are 4 years into our window, which is closing fast, and now we have a true ace. For a big market team, that means go all in. Spend money and sell minor league assets to acquire missing pieces and hold players accountable. This means (a) extend DJ, (b) sign Bauer, (c) trade for Lindor, (d) sign tanaka and (e) use Sevy/German to bolster the bullpen. Obviously, Sanchez, Voit and Andujar would be used as trade chips and Gardy would be watching games on TV.

If we aren't willing to do that, then our window is closed and we should just sell to acquire young assets and prepare for future FA signings. Sell Chapman, Judge, Voit, Ottavino, Hicks, Sanchez. Sign the SS from DR. Shame Stanton to accept a trade and eat as much cash as necessary. Get control of payroll and let the kids play. Reset below cap. Let covid run its course. I'd probably still sign DJ and Brantley to provide some leadership. We could get a kings ransom and still have a team which competes for a wild card in 2021. Frazier, Brantley and Florial in the OF. Gio, Torres, Wade/Estrada, DJ, Higgy in IF. Andujar at DH. Cole, Deivi/Sevy, German, Monty, Schmidt/King in rotation. Bullpen still would have Britton and Green. I bet that team would be more enjoy able to watch and the results probably wouldn't be as different as you think.

And then after the season fill the holes and start a new window. Sign Lindor. Sign Thor. Bolster the bullpen a bit.

How does signing lindor satisfy an urgent need?
10-22-2020, 10:51 PM
Jones

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Originally Posted by Webslinger

How does signing lindor satisfy an urgent need?

1. Improves poor defense at SS, a key defensive position.
2. Adds a lefty bat to balance out the line-up.
3. Gives us a young stud about to enter his prime.
4. Provides us with a legitimate leadoff hitter and allows us to drop DJ to the 3 hole to drive in more runs through contact.
10-23-2020, 12:18 AM
dayners81

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Originally Posted by OhSoSlick

Clint Frazier a gold glove finalist.

What a turn of events for the young outfielder.

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Good for him, all that tough work has payed off for him. Talk about boosting his value in 60games. Last winter we were getting no traction on trading him for anything useful, this winter were going to get asked for him in every potential big trade. Thats not me advocating to trade him unless we get a top starter, i'm just commenting on the incredible job Frazier did changing his career path
10-23-2020, 01:00 AM
Posada20

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Good for him, all that tough work has payed off for him. Talk about boosting his value in 60games. Last winter we were getting no traction on trading him for anything useful, this winter were going to get asked for him in every potential big trade. Thats not me advocating to trade him unless we get a top starter, i'm just commenting on the incredible job Frazier did changing his career path

I am honestly not surprised that Frazier is up for a gold glove , from the first time they brought him up after trading for him I really liked what I saw from him.
10-23-2020, 02:43 AM
Jones

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Good for him, all that tough work has payed off for him. Talk about boosting his value in 60games. Last winter we were getting no traction on trading him for anything useful, this winter were going to get asked for him in every potential big trade. Thats not me advocating to trade him unless we get a top starter, i'm just commenting on the incredible job Frazier did changing his career path

Nobody is off limits, but i would find it very challenging to move Frazier, even if a solid pitcher is available.

Gardy's done. Stanton, Hicks, and Judge are injury guaranteed. Tauchman looked like a flash in the past good enough to give someone a rest, but not someone you want in an every day line-up. Florial doesn't look completely ready and not playing this year didn't help. Wade is nothing more than a AAAA player.
10-23-2020, 07:56 AM
Kinkotheclown

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Originally Posted by Stevemil505

When was the last time the LA Dodgers actually won a WS? Seems relavent since most posters here usually are complaining about how long it has been since Yankees have won a WS; anything else is a failure so Dodgers have "failed" each of those 3 years too, right? Right?

Excellent post.

The only problem is if the Dodgers win this year, you will hear a chorus of "I told you so's"

The other thing about all this is, while I know it's 20 years but the Yankees 5 WS in a row and 6 out of 7 years from 96-2003
Before 96? 1981. Imagine if PSD was around then? These whining *****es would have torn themselves to shreds. It's a bunch of spoiled, ignorant pricks.

I don't like Cashman and it's time for him to go but the whining from some posters is absurd.
10-23-2020, 08:03 AM
Kinkotheclown

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Originally Posted by Jones

1. Improves poor defense at SS, a key defensive position.
2. Adds a lefty bat to balance out the line-up.
3. Gives us a young stud about to enter his prime.
4. Provides us with a legitimate leadoff hitter and allows us to drop DJ to the 3 hole to drive in more runs through contact.

I agree with everything and would add, he can steal bases and he doesn't K a ton.
He would be my first choice for a position player. Will Hal fork up the loot? Who knows. If he does, will he fork up the loot for Lindor and a TORP? You are looking at a lively 50 mil per year bump if he does.

That's why Stanton is such an friggin anchor. If you could get his 20+ off the books? Much greater freedom.

I would also disagree in moving DJ to the 3 spot. I would keep him 1 and bat Lindor 2. That is only because of the lefty/righty imbalance of the team.
DJ
Lindor
torres
Judge
Hicks
Stanton

It wouldn't matter TBH, because it's all righties after that anyway.
10-23-2020, 08:07 AM
Kinkotheclown

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Originally Posted by Jones

Nobody is off limits, but i would find it very challenging to move Frazier, even if a solid pitcher is available.

Gardy's done. Stanton, Hicks, and Judge are injury guaranteed. Tauchman looked like a flash in the past good enough to give someone a rest, but not someone you want in an every day line-up. Florial doesn't look completely ready and not playing this year didn't help. Wade is nothing more than a AAAA player.

I agree. I also think he's going to get better and better..
Talkman is a great defensive replacement and spot starter. Florial has been a bummer. he still has time but it's running out for sure.

The Yankees are in for some tough times because of the Stanton contract. I wonder if they move Torres or Judge? Because right now, they may not want to pay them both the money they will command.
10-23-2020, 09:29 AM
YANKSGUY

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Originally Posted by johnny ny

the do not complain when the yanks get eliminated next year in the al playoffs then...

LOL!!! What are you talking about? You're the one complaining about it, not me.

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