Originally Posted by
dayners81
I've never been a real believer that Stoman was more than a good #3 type starter on a good team rather than a TORP. I do agree he's probably the 2nd best FA starter behind Bauer. It should be interesting to see what his market is like after opting out this yr and in this market. If the yrs and price are right he's definitely should be considered but i don't think he's would represent much of an upgrade over Tanaka.
I've been a long time fan of Carrasco but after his bout with leukemia and getting older IMO he's more of a great number #3 in a solid rotation than the TORP/ Ace he was. My interest would greatly depend on how much money Cleveland would eat and what they would want in return. I wouldn't trade any of Frazier, Devi or Schmidt for him. He would be an upgrade next yr but i question how well he is going to age especially after having leukemia. He'll be 34 with 3yrs left on his deal so aging would be an issue as well
Martinez has an incredible arm but he's struggled in the past with being effective in the rotation and injuries. He's pitched out of the BP and i think thats going to be his best future role, a multi inning power reliever that you can bring in at any point of the game. I'd love to get him and see him focus on just throwing his 2 best pitches, i'm just not sure STL would part with him for the minimum return that he's really worth. I completely agree he's a great change of scenery/ buy low candidate . He's still got 3yr and 30m plus on his deal so STL would need to eat a fair part of that deal to make it make sense IMO
What would you think about trying to get German Marquez from COL ? we know they are one of the team that already talking about cutting payroll significantly and he's entering arbitration. He's only 26 and put up consecutive seasons of 3.1, 4.7 and 3.5 WAR pitching in Coors field half the time. He wouldn't be cheap maybe something like Sanchez, 1 of Frazier or Andujar and a non top 5 pitchng specs. I do know the Rockies really like Luis Gil and have tried to acquire him multiple times. Maybe Voit and Gil gets it done?
This is what so stupid about not signing Bauer if he really only wants a 1yr deal. IMO our biggest need is another TORP that can go head to head with someone like Snell or Glasnow and other than Bauer, even on the trade market from the rumors we've heard so far, the pickings are pretty slim. Were not winning with just Cole and what we have. I'm very concerned we will go into next yr with what we've got with Cashman hoping German goes right back to his 2019 form and they will count on Sevy to be the rotation savior when he gets back in June/July
I truly believe if they don't atleast fix the pitching, both rotation and BP, next yr will be another lost prime yr of Cole and the core of this team. Now isn;t the time to go cheap, the window to win is now and closing rapidly. It's going to be a huge mistake if they don't make the better personnel decisions this winter IMO
